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JosephKK · Guest

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:35:20 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

[quote]On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:55:12 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
nfilter/NewsProxy will crash every time while trying to retrieve the
body of this message...

Subject: Converting Excel 2007 Nested "If" Statement to Excel 2003:
Overcom

Is there something there that nfilter/NewsProxy "sees" as code??

Weird.

Maybe this nfilter method is just too complicated ... ?

I simply use the filters in Thunderbird. Ok, that axes all google
groupers, can>t help it. But it reduces spam to about one a day. I can
live with that.

Turned out the message was all one extremely long line of Excel code,
choking nfilter.

I white-list a number of "good-guy" googlegroup posters.

But eliminate some leftist/Euro-weenie pains-in-the-ass ;-)

I see NO spam.

...Jim Thompson
[/quote]
Just to make sure, i will repeat: nfilter/NewsProxy does not read
message bodies, only headers. I have read the code. (the code is very
clean and rather pretty by the way. It would make a great piece of
example code for students, small, useful, and no silly nonsense.)

Phat Bytestard · Guest

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:57:30 -0700, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

[quote]Phat Bytestard wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:05:13 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

No Cable ISP?

Yes, but prohibitively expensive if you don>t also by their bundle.

Lemmie guess... you hate cable too, so you have DirectTardTV.

No, antenna.
[/quote]
Yeah, well... one gets what one pays for.

I watched billiards today. TV is a bigger part of my life than it
apparently is in yours, and that is why I pay for cable services.

Nico Coesel · Guest

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

[quote]On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:31:28 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:39:28 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

I got the sports car (280Z) when I turned 47. Now (at 68) I drive a
pick-em-up truck ;-)

...Jim Thompson

I bought an Austin-Healey Sprite, $2085 new, when I was 20, and got
that out of my system. Now, I can>t understand why anybody would buy
anything but a hatchback.
[/quote]
I second that. After owning a Toyota station wagon I bought a sedan.
Bringing something big is out of the question. Fortunately my wife
bought a hatch-back. I wanted to trade my car for a Volvo station
wagon, but so far no luck. On the other hand, the Volvo would have
sucked my wallet empty by now :-)

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JosephKK · Guest

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:48:23 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

[quote]On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:02:25 -0500, Allan Herriman
allanherrmian@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi, I>m aware of some standards that dictate airflow direction in rack
mount cases (e.g. ETSI 300 119 and NEBS), and it>s usually front to back,
bottom to top, or (least preferred) left to right.

But recently I noticed some equipment from Brocade in a 1U case that drew
air in at the back, and blew it out the front. This is actually mentioned
in the datasheet, so it was not an assembly error (with the fans in the
wrong way around).

It>s called a "hand warmer."

Why would designers go against the standards and do this? Could there be
some benefit to the equipment?

Standards are for sheep. If a rack is internally plenum-fed with cool
(and sometimes super-temperature-controlled) air, it makes sense to
intake from inside the rack and dump the warm air into the room. We do
a bunch of electro-optical stuff that way, with the most temp-critical
stuff in the back of the box. The fan>s in front, so its own heat
heads straight out.

Left-right will just spin hot air inside a rack. And probably restrict
flow badly. Ditto bottom-top.

Small benchtop instruments usually blow out the back, so as not to
annoy users with the air and noise. Whatever works best.

John

[/quote]
Thinking a bit, bottom to top is helped by convection flows. Front
panel versus back panel requires consideration of who and why some is
at the front panel or back panel. The front panel is usually for
meter readers and such who are very intolerant of warm air in their
faces, back panels are usually full of connectors and such and
represent a restricted flow. Sideways flows in racks are useful only
in carefully managed situations. In all cases consider various users
and maintainers and total heat transport.

Jim Thompson · Guest

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:36:30 -0700, JosephKK <quiettechblue@yahoo.com>
wrote:

[quote]On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:35:20 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:55:12 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
nfilter/NewsProxy will crash every time while trying to retrieve the
body of this message...

Subject: Converting Excel 2007 Nested "If" Statement to Excel 2003:
Overcom

Is there something there that nfilter/NewsProxy "sees" as code??

Weird.

Maybe this nfilter method is just too complicated ... ?

I simply use the filters in Thunderbird. Ok, that axes all google
groupers, can>t help it. But it reduces spam to about one a day. I can
live with that.

Turned out the message was all one extremely long line of Excel code,
choking nfilter.

I white-list a number of "good-guy" googlegroup posters.

But eliminate some leftist/Euro-weenie pains-in-the-ass ;-)

I see NO spam.

...Jim Thompson

Just to make sure, i will repeat: nfilter/NewsProxy does not read
message bodies, only headers. I have read the code. (the code is very
clean and rather pretty by the way. It would make a great piece of
example code for students, small, useful, and no silly nonsense.)

[/quote]
So why does nfilter consistently barf on this message?

I know nfilter doesn>t look in the body, but the "References" header
allows me to kill follow-ups.

Where can I view a copy of the source code? Maybe I can bribe my son
to add some features ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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Michael A. Terrell · Guest

JosephKK wrote:
[quote]
That is such a 1950>s homebuilt attitude. Not suitable even for short
run production. Where are you going to get the tech>s? Can you
afford the ones that can do that? Can you afford to do that yourself
for even 500 units?
[/quote]

A lot of TVs used gimmicks, and were built in large quantities. In
fact, some used a pair of enameled wires wrapped in thread, to simplify
the design, and reduce the assembly time. They looked like they were
cut to length, and split at one end before they were dipped into a
solder pot. I saw them in the IF circuits of a lot of brands. All they
did was cut small amounts, till they got the proper waveform on the
sweep generator, marker generator, detector and scope setup that
predated network analyzers. If they snipped too much they could gently
squeeze the wires below the wrap. This was used from the early B&W sets,
to the last of the tube type color sets.

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Jim Thompson · Guest

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:00:00 GMT, nico@puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel)
wrote:

[quote]John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:31:28 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:39:28 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

I got the sports car (280Z) when I turned 47. Now (at 68) I drive a
pick-em-up truck ;-)

...Jim Thompson

I bought an Austin-Healey Sprite, $2085 new, when I was 20, and got
that out of my system. Now, I can>t understand why anybody would buy
anything but a hatchback.

I second that. After owning a Toyota station wagon I bought a sedan.
Bringing something big is out of the question. Fortunately my wife
bought a hatch-back. I wanted to trade my car for a Volvo station
wagon, but so far no luck. On the other hand, the Volvo would have
sucked my wallet empty by now :-)
[/quote]
That>s why I own a small pick-em-up truck, Nissan Frontier, extended
cab... so I can bring home 4' X 8' sheets of plywood or drywall, yet
put a couple of grandkids in the jump seats if need be ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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Michael A. Terrell · Guest

Joerg wrote:
[quote]
This is the kind of stuff where the "big two" might initially laugh and
scoff. A few years down the road that might turn into "Oh dang!".
Remember when the first VW Beetles showed up and the top managers from
the big three had a major ROFL episode? None of them laughs anymore.
[/quote]

That was 50 years ago, and they are probably all long dead. People
would still laugh if the original VW were brought to the market today.

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Michael A. Terrell · Guest

Jim Thompson wrote:
[quote]
But Slowman is just a village idiot leftist weenie scumbag socialist
craphead with his anus in his mouth... he should be shunned ;-)
[/quote]

Jim, there is no need to insult those types by dragging them down to
Sloman>s level. :(

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Michael A. Terrell · Guest

Jim Thompson wrote:
[quote]
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:59:12 -0700, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

There seems to be a roumor that after proper notification, repetitive
callers can be subject to a $300 fine / judgement per call.
Where can i find that (or any othe amount)?

Sign up for the "selectable-call-blocking" feature at your phone
company. But that doesn>t always work for anonymous/out-of-area
stuff, so I block that as well, except I turn it off when I>m
expecting a call from my doctor after hours.

My latest game is to play along, in Tom Mabe style. When we get down
to signing me up for something, I cuss them out and hang up.

They rarely call back because I>ve wasted their time that they could
have used to try and con someone else.
[/quote]

I tell them that I>m disabled, and ask if they can send me a few
dollars for food. They never call back. :)

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Michael A. Terrell · Guest

Jim Thompson wrote:
[quote]
I think ALL phones rely on a ring to dump the previous indication and
load the newest.
[/quote]

So? Monitor the line and send a single ring when you hang up.

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Greg Neill · Guest

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote
in message news:ikuc64pjqb6g1nl4vr513rcs4smldg1se2@4ax.com
[quote]On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:36:30 -0700, JosephKK <quiettechblue@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:35:20 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:55:12 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
nfilter/NewsProxy will crash every time while trying to retrieve
the body of this message...

Subject: Converting Excel 2007 Nested "If" Statement to Excel
2003: Overcom

Is there something there that nfilter/NewsProxy "sees" as code??

Weird.

Maybe this nfilter method is just too complicated ... ?

I simply use the filters in Thunderbird. Ok, that axes all google
groupers, can>t help it. But it reduces spam to about one a day. I
can live with that.

Turned out the message was all one extremely long line of Excel
code, choking nfilter.

I white-list a number of "good-guy" googlegroup posters.

But eliminate some leftist/Euro-weenie pains-in-the-ass ;-)

I see NO spam.

...Jim Thompson

Just to make sure, i will repeat: nfilter/NewsProxy does not read
message bodies, only headers. I have read the code. (the code is
very clean and rather pretty by the way. It would make a great
piece of example code for students, small, useful, and no silly
nonsense.)

So why does nfilter consistently barf on this message?

I know nfilter doesn>t look in the body, but the "References" header
allows me to kill follow-ups.
[/quote]
It may be that nfilter has a limit on the length of line
it can handle, that is, a buffer overflow is occurring.

Even if nfilter only "looks" at the headers, it still has
to read in and pass along the whole message to the downstream
news client.

Jim Thompson · Guest

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:44:29 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

[quote]
Jim Thompson wrote:

I think ALL phones rely on a ring to dump the previous indication and
load the newest.

So? Monitor the line and send a single ring when you hang up.
[/quote]
But the first passed-thru ring of the next call will clear what got
stored.

...Jim Thompson
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Richard The Dreaded Liber · Guest

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 00:28:11 +0000, Jim Yanik wrote:
[quote]
Al Gore is an IDIOT.
[/quote]
Yeah, an idiot bringing home tens of millions of your dollars.

Thanks,
Rich

MooseFET · Guest

On Jun 27, 9:46 am, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
[quote]On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:57:12 -0700, Jim Thompson

To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Scare of the day...

The clearly written 2nd Amendment:

"The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed"

yesterday was _almost_ trashed by the leftist weenies on the Supreme
Court.

Fortunately, by a 5:4 decision, the leftist weenies were NOT able to
trash one of the most fundamental rights guaranteed to us under our
wonderfully written Constitution.

You snipped half of it. The 2nd amendment is the worst-written part of
the Constitution; it>s horribly ambiguous.
[/quote]
It was obvious back when it was written. Bears where much more common
then so everyone could have a could of forelimbs to beat the enemy
over the head with should the need arise.

[quote]
John[/quote]


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