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[neil]
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 Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 1:31 pm Post subject: inside out egg! |
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Hi all,
One of our hens was acting very timid yesterday (usually can get to handle
them, but she wasn>t having any of it), and this morning there was an "egg"
laid right where they coop at night. Only thing was the egg was rubber (no
shell!), very squishy, and next to it was the shell (all folded up), and the
yolk in a pool next to it.
The hens seem fine this morning, and I don>t think anything can have given
them a bad scare (they>re locked in at night etc).
Have access to grit, eat layers pellets etc...
Anyone else had similar?
Cheers
Neil |
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Ace
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 6:23 am Post subject: Re: inside out egg! |
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They also need oyster shell for calcium to make the shells stronger.
"[neil]" <neilw@nospamplease.knobcheese.com> wrote in message
news:3f65777f$1@dnews0.news.legend.net.uk...
[quote]Hi all,
One of our hens was acting very timid yesterday (usually can get to handle
them, but she wasn>t having any of it), and this morning there was an
"egg"
laid right where they coop at night. Only thing was the egg was rubber
(no
shell!), very squishy, and next to it was the shell (all folded up), and
the
yolk in a pool next to it.
The hens seem fine this morning, and I don>t think anything can have given
them a bad scare (they>re locked in at night etc).
Have access to grit, eat layers pellets etc...
Anyone else had similar?
Cheers
Neil
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Donna Wilson
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: inside out egg! |
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I had one rubbery no-shell egg about two weeks. A first. Pretty peculiar.
I fed it to the dog. My son collected the eggs that day and I didn>t think
to ask about finding the shell. Haven>t seen any shell refuse anywhere.
Mine are in moult, seem healthy, get grit & oyster shell and, except for
occasional white speckles, produce good strong shells. Usually. Donna.
"[neil]" <neilw@nospamplease.knobcheese.com> wrote in message
news:3f65777f$1@dnews0.news.legend.net.uk...
[quote]Hi all,
One of our hens was acting very timid yesterday (usually can get to handle
them, but she wasn>t having any of it), and this morning there was an
"egg"
laid right where they coop at night. Only thing was the egg was rubber
(no
shell!), very squishy, and next to it was the shell (all folded up), and
the
yolk in a pool next to it.
The hens seem fine this morning, and I don>t think anything can have given
them a bad scare (they>re locked in at night etc).
Have access to grit, eat layers pellets etc...
Anyone else had similar?
Cheers
Neil
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 7:51 pm Post subject: Re: inside out egg! |
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They do that a lot when they are moulting.
"Donna Wilson" <donna.loreen.wilsonnospam@shaw.ca> sci.agriculture.poultry :
[quote]I had one rubbery no-shell egg about two weeks. A first. Pretty peculiar.
I fed it to the dog. My son collected the eggs that day and I didn>t think
to ask about finding the shell. Haven>t seen any shell refuse anywhere.
Mine are in moult, seem healthy, get grit & oyster shell and, except for
occasional white speckles, produce good strong shells. Usually. Donna.
"[neil]" <neilw@nospamplease.knobcheese.com> wrote in message
news:3f65777f$1@dnews0.news.legend.net.uk...
Hi all,
One of our hens was acting very timid yesterday (usually can get to handle
them, but she wasn>t having any of it), and this morning there was an
"egg"
laid right where they coop at night. Only thing was the egg was rubber
(no
shell!), very squishy, and next to it was the shell (all folded up), and
the
yolk in a pool next to it.
The hens seem fine this morning, and I don>t think anything can have given
them a bad scare (they>re locked in at night etc).
Have access to grit, eat layers pellets etc...
Anyone else had similar?
Cheers
Neil
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Krys Francis
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: inside out egg! |
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"[neil]" <neilw@nospamplease.knobcheese.com> writes
[quote]Hi all,
One of our hens was acting very timid yesterday (usually can get to handle
them, but she wasn>t having any of it), and this morning there was an "egg"
laid right where they coop at night. Only thing was the egg was rubber (no
shell!), very squishy, and next to it was the shell (all folded up), and the
yolk in a pool next to it.
The hens seem fine this morning, and I don>t think anything can have given
them a bad scare (they>re locked in at night etc).
Have access to grit, eat layers pellets etc...
Anyone else had similar?
Cheers
Neil
As long as you have extra calcium on offer, don>t worry, these sort of[/quote]
eggs
happen quite frequently at start or end of lay.
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Regards
Krys
www.lluestfarmpoultry.co.uk |
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Jay
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: inside out egg! |
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"Krys Francis" <KrysFrancis@lluestfarmpoultry.co.uk> wrote in message
news:AjGQJWHGjHa$MwWI@clef.demon.co.uk...
[quote]"[neil]" <neilw@nospamplease.knobcheese.com> writes
Hi all,
One of our hens was acting very timid yesterday (usually can get to
handle
them, but she wasn>t having any of it), and this morning there was an
"egg"
laid right where they coop at night. Only thing was the egg was rubber
(no
shell!), very squishy, and next to it was the shell (all folded up), and
the
yolk in a pool next to it.
The hens seem fine this morning, and I don>t think anything can have
given
them a bad scare (they>re locked in at night etc).
Have access to grit, eat layers pellets etc...
Anyone else had similar?
Cheers
Neil
As long as you have extra calcium on offer, don>t worry, these sort of
eggs
happen quite frequently at start or end of lay.
--
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When you say 'at start or end of lay' do you mean of the hens laying life or
annual cycle (ie at start of laying again as the daylight lengthens and end
of laying as they moult and daylight hours shorten?
[quote]Regards
Krys
www.lluestfarmpoultry.co.uk
[/quote]
Thanks
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Krys Francis
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: inside out egg! |
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In message <1063889400.54685.0@demeter.uk.clara.net>, Jay
<j_green156@hotmail.com> writes
[quote]
"Krys Francis" <KrysFrancis@lluestfarmpoultry.co.uk> wrote in message
news:AjGQJWHGjHa$MwWI@clef.demon.co.uk...
"[neil]" <neilw@nospamplease.knobcheese.com> writes
Hi all,
One of our hens was acting very timid yesterday (usually can get to
handle
them, but she wasn>t having any of it), and this morning there was an
"egg"
laid right where they coop at night. Only thing was the egg was rubber
(no
shell!), very squishy, and next to it was the shell (all folded up), and
the
yolk in a pool next to it.
The hens seem fine this morning, and I don>t think anything can have
given
them a bad scare (they>re locked in at night etc).
Have access to grit, eat layers pellets etc...
Anyone else had similar?
Cheers
Neil
As long as you have extra calcium on offer, don>t worry, these sort of
eggs
happen quite frequently at start or end of lay.
--
When you say 'at start or end of lay' do you mean of the hens laying life or
annual cycle (ie at start of laying again as the daylight lengthens and end
of laying as they moult and daylight hours shorten?
[/quote]
Hello Jay,
I find that the most likely time for anomalous eggs is when pullets come
into lay for the first time ever, the shell less egg in particular. (I
still remember my astonishment the first time I found one). Occasionally
I>ve known pullets, coming into lay for the first time, to lay two egg
at one time.
With the mature birds I>ve seen peculiar eggs at start & end of lay. It
seems that the type of peculiar egg can vary from bird to bird. Some
seem to lay one or two double yolked eggs others do the strange shell
thing, some do this at start some at end, some both. The most usual egg
peculiarity from mature birds seems to be rough or thin shelled eggs or
misshapen eggs, I take this as a sign that they need a rest & they
usually seem to take one soon after.
I think I should say that I think that the majority of birds lay normal
eggs, it>s just that strange eggs aren>t that unusual & are usually
nothing to worry about.
[quote]Regards
Krys
www.lluestfarmpoultry.co.uk
Thanks
Jay
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Krys
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nuele
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: inside out egg! |
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Krys Francis <KrysFrancis@lluestfarmpoultry.co.uk> wrote:
[quote]
Hello Jay,
I find that the most likely time for anomalous eggs is when pullets come
into lay for the first time ever, the shell less egg in particular. (I
still remember my astonishment the first time I found one). Occasionally
I>ve known pullets, coming into lay for the first time, to lay two egg
at one time.
With the mature birds I>ve seen peculiar eggs at start & end of lay. It
seems that the type of peculiar egg can vary from bird to bird. Some
seem to lay one or two double yolked eggs others do the strange shell
thing, some do this at start some at end, some both. The most usual egg
peculiarity from mature birds seems to be rough or thin shelled eggs or
misshapen eggs, I take this as a sign that they need a rest & they
usually seem to take one soon after.
I think I should say that I think that the majority of birds lay normal
eggs, it>s just that strange eggs aren>t that unusual & are usually
nothing to worry about.
[/quote]
All very true, just wanted to add that there is a disease - infectious
bronchitis, IB - that can cause a typical misshaping of the eggs, like
grooves in the shell from one end of the egg to the other. Of course,
with IB you would also notice other symptoms - respiratory difficulties,
loss of appetite, partial moult, the hens often stop laying.
Nuele (D)
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to mail me, replace the fowls in my address by sap to avoid the spam
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Krys Francis
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: inside out egg! |
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In message <1g1mwua.1th12ky1is6nb4N%fowls@nuele-online.de>, nuele
<fowls@nuele-online.de> writes
[quote]Krys Francis <KrysFrancis@lluestfarmpoultry.co.uk> wrote:
Hello Jay,
I find that the most likely time for anomalous eggs is when pullets come
into lay for the first time ever, the shell less egg in particular. (I
still remember my astonishment the first time I found one). Occasionally
I>ve known pullets, coming into lay for the first time, to lay two egg
at one time.
With the mature birds I>ve seen peculiar eggs at start & end of lay. It
seems that the type of peculiar egg can vary from bird to bird. Some
seem to lay one or two double yolked eggs others do the strange shell
thing, some do this at start some at end, some both. The most usual egg
peculiarity from mature birds seems to be rough or thin shelled eggs or
misshapen eggs, I take this as a sign that they need a rest & they
usually seem to take one soon after.
I think I should say that I think that the majority of birds lay normal
eggs, it>s just that strange eggs aren>t that unusual & are usually
nothing to worry about.
All very true, just wanted to add that there is a disease - infectious
bronchitis, IB - that can cause a typical misshaping of the eggs, like
grooves in the shell from one end of the egg to the other. Of course,
with IB you would also notice other symptoms - respiratory difficulties,
loss of appetite, partial moult, the hens often stop laying.
Nuele (D)
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Oh definitely.
Whenever I see someone post about rubber/shell less eggs, I remember my
first experience of them & the bizarre thing that I thought. So I want
to put their mind at rest.
I had geese first, then ducks. When our first ducks first came into lay,
I found these strange, what I call blubby, eggs at the edge of the pond.
Having never seen anything like it before, picked up the two blubby
eggs, one of which had slight calcium deposits on the membrane, took the
eggs to my husband & told him that I thought there might be something
very wrong with the water in the pond, that it might be very acidic (we
live in a very acid soil area), & had dissolved the shells of the eggs
It was only when the next blubby egg arrived nowhere near the pond that
I decided that maybe there was something wrong with the ducks & phoned
the vet, who explained:-)
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Krys
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