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David E. Powell · Guest

They must be coonvinced the hostage takers are just out to kill.

I wish them luck and I wish the people trapped in there with the
psychos luck.

This was what the Russians eventually ended up doing too.

David E. Powell · Guest

On Nov 27, 9:36 am, "a425couple" <a425cou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Re: Indian police/military going in hot to Hotels?
"David E. Powell" <David_Powell3...@msn.com> wrote in ...

They must be coonvinced the hostage takers are just out to kill.
I wish them luck and I wish the people trapped in there with the
psychos luck.
This was what the Russians eventually ended up doing too.

I agree David, and join you in wishing them luck and success.

The forever problem when criminals have hostages,
is there are two main choices.
Either way you go has many pitfalls, and is likely
to be criticised.
#1. Negotiate - defuze, talk, bargan, reason.
Certainly in 'modern' and 'civilized' times the first
thing tried, and primary choice. Has a quite good
overall success rate - (if the criminals wish to live!)
But as many incidents (such as Columbine) have
shown, delay in 'official>s entry' also has costs.
#2. Authorities/Official forceful entry to end the
threat. There is always the potential that upon
the start of 'official entry' that A) this will trigger and
allow the criminals to kill all hostages,
or B) in the fog of combat that the 'officials'
themselves will kill hostages.
So the entry teams have to be very well equiped,
trained, prepared, dedicated, led and decisive.
And we will hope, have luck on their side
(and understanding from population).
[/quote]
I hear you. It looks like things are still going on. Fires are still
burning which isn>t good, but I can see why firefighters wouldn>t be
able to get into the area right now.

From what it looks like, it was really planned and financed. Each
group would need not just weapons but training on each place they were
going, each hotel>s position and layout and the coordination to strike
all at once or in a very short time window.

The rumors are it was an attack via boats, which is one way of
bypassing land checkpoints. If so, they>d need directions from
wherever they launched off from to a landing point or landing points,
and then to the hotels, all coordinated in the above mentioned time
window.

Bless the people under attack and the local responders, I agree with
you about the locals' responders and second it.

I>m guessing this was timed to Thanksgiving. I hope we can find where
these terrorists launched from, and who financed and backed them on
this attack.

David

deemsbill@aol.com · Guest

On Nov 27, 11:06 am, "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3...@msn.com>
wrote:
[quote]On Nov 27, 9:36 am, "a425couple" <a425cou...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Re: Indian police/military going in hot to Hotels?
"David E. Powell" <David_Powell3...@msn.com> wrote in ...

They must be coonvinced the hostage takers are just out to kill.
I wish them luck and I wish the people trapped in there with the
psychos luck.
This was what the Russians eventually ended up doing too.

I agree David, and join you in wishing them luck and success.

The forever problem when criminals have hostages,
is there are two main choices.
Either way you go has many pitfalls, and is likely
to be criticised.
#1. Negotiate - defuze, talk, bargan, reason.
Certainly in 'modern' and 'civilized' times the first
thing tried, and primary choice. Has a quite good
overall success rate - (if the criminals wish to live!)
But as many incidents (such as Columbine) have
shown, delay in 'official>s entry' also has costs.
#2. Authorities/Official forceful entry to end the
threat. There is always the potential that upon
the start of 'official entry' that A) this will trigger and
allow the criminals to kill all hostages,
or B) in the fog of combat that the 'officials'
themselves will kill hostages.
So the entry teams have to be very well equiped,
trained, prepared, dedicated, led and decisive.
And we will hope, have luck on their side
(and understanding from population).

I hear you. It looks like things are still going on. Fires are still
burning which isn>t good, but I can see why firefighters wouldn>t be
able to get into the area right now.

From what it looks like, it was really planned and financed. Each
group would need not just weapons but training on each place they were
going, each hotel>s position and layout and the coordination to strike
all at once or in a very short time window.

The rumors are it was an attack via boats, which is one way of
bypassing land checkpoints. If so, they>d need directions from
wherever they launched off from to a landing point or landing points,
and then to the hotels, all coordinated in the above mentioned time
window.

Bless the people under attack and the local responders, I agree with
you about the locals' responders and second it.

I>m guessing this was timed to Thanksgiving. I hope we can find where
these terrorists launched from, and who financed and backed them on
this attack.

David
[/quote]
I doubt the attackers even know what Thanksgiving is. It>s not
like it>s anywhere near a universal holiday.

guy · Guest

On 27 Nov, 16:06, "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3...@msn.com> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 27, 9:36 am, "a425couple" <a425cou...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Re: Indian police/military going in hot to Hotels?
"David E. Powell" <David_Powell3...@msn.com> wrote in ...

They must be coonvinced the hostage takers are just out to kill.
I wish them luck and I wish the people trapped in there with the
psychos luck.
This was what the Russians eventually ended up doing too.

I agree David, and join you in wishing them luck and success.

The forever problem when criminals have hostages,
is there are two main choices.
Either way you go has many pitfalls, and is likely
to be criticised.
#1. Negotiate - defuze, talk, bargan, reason.
Certainly in 'modern' and 'civilized' times the first
thing tried, and primary choice. Has a quite good
overall success rate - (if the criminals wish to live!)
But as many incidents (such as Columbine) have
shown, delay in 'official>s entry' also has costs.
#2. Authorities/Official forceful entry to end the
threat. There is always the potential that upon
the start of 'official entry' that A) this will trigger and
allow the criminals to kill all hostages,
or B) in the fog of combat that the 'officials'
themselves will kill hostages.
So the entry teams have to be very well equiped,
trained, prepared, dedicated, led and decisive.
And we will hope, have luck on their side
(and understanding from population).

I hear you. It looks like things are still going on. Fires are still
burning which isn>t good, but I can see why firefighters wouldn>t be
able to get into the area right now.

From what it looks like, it was really planned and financed. Each
group would need not just weapons but training on each place they were
going, each hotel>s position and layout and the coordination to strike
all at once or in a very short time window.

The rumors are it was an attack via boats, which is one way of
bypassing land checkpoints. If so, they>d need directions from
wherever they launched off from to a landing point or landing points,
and then to the hotels, all coordinated in the above mentioned time
window.

Bless the people under attack and the local responders, I agree with
you about the locals' responders and second it.

I>m guessing this was timed to Thanksgiving. I hope we can find where
these terrorists launched from, and who financed and backed them on
this attack.

David- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
[/quote]
Apparently the Indian Navy are reported to have boarded/captured a
vessel that may have been involved. - BBC News

Guy

a425couple · Guest

Re: Indian police/military going in hot to Hotels?
"David E. Powell" <David_Powell3006@msn.com> wrote in ...
[quote]They must be coonvinced the hostage takers are just out to kill.
I wish them luck and I wish the people trapped in there with the
psychos luck.
This was what the Russians eventually ended up doing too.
[/quote]
I agree David, and join you in wishing them luck and success.

The forever problem when criminals have hostages,
is there are two main choices.
Either way you go has many pitfalls, and is likely
to be criticised.
#1. Negotiate - defuze, talk, bargan, reason.
Certainly in 'modern' and 'civilized' times the first
thing tried, and primary choice. Has a quite good
overall success rate - (if the criminals wish to live!)
But as many incidents (such as Columbine) have
shown, delay in 'official>s entry' also has costs.
#2. Authorities/Official forceful entry to end the
threat. There is always the potential that upon
the start of 'official entry' that A) this will trigger and
allow the criminals to kill all hostages,
or B) in the fog of combat that the 'officials'
themselves will kill hostages.
So the entry teams have to be very well equiped,
trained, prepared, dedicated, led and decisive.
And we will hope, have luck on their side
(and understanding from population).

William Black · Guest

"David E. Powell" <David_Powell3006@msn.com> wrote in message
news:9d9dac1a-67c8-47e5-96a9-918732a74d13@k8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...

I>m guessing this was timed to Thanksgiving.

----------------

I doubt very much that anyone involved on an operational level on either
side knows or cares what Thanksgiving is.

--
William Black

I>ve seen things you people wouldn>t believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

aineecumi@gmail.com · Guest

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P-Dub · Guest

Most people just will never understand.

The enemy is the ideology. ISLAM is the enemy to civilization. Unless
it>s exposed as a murder religion, they will continue to play victims
while attacking.

www.thereligionofpeace.com

P-Dub: It>s damn true

David E. Powell wrote:
[quote]On Nov 27, 9:36 am, "a425couple" <a425cou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Re: Indian police/military going in hot to Hotels?
"David E. Powell" <David_Powell3...@msn.com> wrote in ...

They must be coonvinced the hostage takers are just out to kill.
I wish them luck and I wish the people trapped in there with the
psychos luck.
This was what the Russians eventually ended up doing too.
I agree David, and join you in wishing them luck and success.

The forever problem when criminals have hostages,
is there are two main choices.
Either way you go has many pitfalls, and is likely
to be criticised.
#1. Negotiate - defuze, talk, bargan, reason.
Certainly in 'modern' and 'civilized' times the first
thing tried, and primary choice. Has a quite good
overall success rate - (if the criminals wish to live!)
But as many incidents (such as Columbine) have
shown, delay in 'official>s entry' also has costs.
#2. Authorities/Official forceful entry to end the
threat. There is always the potential that upon
the start of 'official entry' that A) this will trigger and
allow the criminals to kill all hostages,
or B) in the fog of combat that the 'officials'
themselves will kill hostages.
So the entry teams have to be very well equiped,
trained, prepared, dedicated, led and decisive.
And we will hope, have luck on their side
(and understanding from population).

I hear you. It looks like things are still going on. Fires are still
burning which isn>t good, but I can see why firefighters wouldn>t be
able to get into the area right now.

From what it looks like, it was really planned and financed. Each
group would need not just weapons but training on each place they were
going, each hotel>s position and layout and the coordination to strike
all at once or in a very short time window.

The rumors are it was an attack via boats, which is one way of
bypassing land checkpoints. If so, they>d need directions from
wherever they launched off from to a landing point or landing points,
and then to the hotels, all coordinated in the above mentioned time
window.

Bless the people under attack and the local responders, I agree with
you about the locals' responders and second it.

I>m guessing this was timed to Thanksgiving. I hope we can find where
these terrorists launched from, and who financed and backed them on
this attack.

David[/quote]

C The Shocker · Guest

P-Dub wrote:
[quote]Most people just will never understand.

The enemy is the ideology. ISLAM is the enemy to civilization. Unless
it>s exposed as a murder religion, they will continue to play victims
while attacking.
[/quote]
All religions fall into this category. They are methods of controlling
populations and brainwashing minds. Until the myths of religions are
eradicated from civilization completely, human beings will never truly
evolve into what they are capable of becoming.

--
C The Shocker
All women are pigs with lipstick!

P-Dub · Guest

Most religions try to promote peace in this day and age.

Not Islam. The actual Islamic 'word' is extremely hostile toward Jews,
Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, homosexuals, etc.

Islam has NEVER been a religion of peace. It>s really an ideology with a
purpose: to take over the world by force.

You cannot compare other religions to this insanity.

100% OF ALL TERRORISTS ARE MUSLIMS. PERIOD.

P-Dub. It>s damn true.

C The Shocker wrote:
[quote]P-Dub wrote:
Most people just will never understand.

The enemy is the ideology. ISLAM is the enemy to civilization. Unless
it>s exposed as a murder religion, they will continue to play victims
while attacking.

All religions fall into this category. They are methods of controlling
populations and brainwashing minds. Until the myths of religions are
eradicated from civilization completely, human beings will never truly
evolve into what they are capable of becoming.
[/quote]

Lord Gow333, Jeff Jarrett · Guest

"C The Shocker" <pdxchris@verizon.FUCKYOUSPAMMERS.net> wrote in message
news:vhDXk.1470$us6.1421@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
[quote]P-Dub wrote:
Most people just will never understand.

The enemy is the ideology. ISLAM is the enemy to civilization. Unless
it>s exposed as a murder religion, they will continue to play victims
while attacking.

All religions fall into this category. They are methods of controlling
populations and brainwashing minds.
[/quote]
Dude, seriously, go f ck yourself.

LG
--
The attacks were meant to bring us to our knees, and they did, but not in
the way the terrorists intended. Americans united in prayer, came to the aid
of neighbors in need, and resolved that our enemies would not have the last
word. - George W. Bush

C The Shocker · Guest

P-Dub wrote:
[quote]Most religions try to promote peace in this day and age.
[/quote]
BAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Whatever lets you sleep at night, man.

--
C The Shocker
All women are pigs with lipstick!

C The Shocker · Guest

Lord Gow333, Jeff Jarrett>s number 238823454 fan! wrote:
[quote]
"C The Shocker" <pdxchris@verizon.FUCKYOUSPAMMERS.net> wrote in message
news:vhDXk.1470$us6.1421@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
P-Dub wrote:
Most people just will never understand.

The enemy is the ideology. ISLAM is the enemy to civilization. Unless
it>s exposed as a murder religion, they will continue to play victims
while attacking.

All religions fall into this category. They are methods of controlling
populations and brainwashing minds.

Dude, seriously, go f ck yourself.
[/quote]
LOL

--
C The Shocker
All women are pigs with lipstick!

deemsbill@aol.com · Guest

On Nov 28, 4:15 am, "Mr Black" <mr_bl...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
[quote]100% OF ALL TERRORISTS ARE MUSLIMS. PERIOD.

oh really...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
[/quote]
Not to mention the Tamils.

Mr Black · Guest

[quote]
100% OF ALL TERRORISTS ARE MUSLIMS. PERIOD.

[/quote]
oh really...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing


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