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Stuart <bigdakine@aol.com> wrote:
[quote]The ridge that is the mid-ocean Indian ridge originally formed between
India
and Madagascar. India did not cross a ridge, did not have to crumple
Madagascar, did not have to pay 2-0-0...
http://www.scotese.com/K/t.htm
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Most reconstructions at 200 Ma show India entirely souther than africa>s
horn.
However, that is not possible as North-West India (Gujarat/Rajasthan
provinces) must remain north of Africa>s horn, because the ridge passes
south of Arabia and North of Ethiopia.
<http://nachon.free.fr/GE/indian/Indiadrift.jpg>
Except for those who believe that India jumped the ridge. Are you one of
these believers?
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Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
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George
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:40 am Post subject: Re: India adrift |
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"Florian" <auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net> wrote in message
news:1iokd85.1yvavd812pv3r0N%auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net...
[quote]George <George@george.net> wrote:
Maxlow is an idiot who has been discredited numerous times. So I suppose
congratulations are in order that he>s suckered you into his scam.
No Ron Yates, *you* are the idiot of the block.
That model made by Maxlow predict a configuration of Siberia/South
China/India/Australia/Antarctica/North america, that is similar to that
determined lately from geological data. See Fig 3A.
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/321/5886/235
Observations => model => prediction => confirmed by independant data.
That how science is supposed to work.
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Posting a link t an article from a journal that I have no subscription and
therefore cannot access to doesn>t help your argument. And yes, Maxlow is a
quack, and so are you.
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Stuart
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: India adrift |
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On Oct 10, 9:30 am, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
[quote]Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:
On Oct 9, 11:10 am, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:
The ridge that is the mid-ocean Indian ridge originally formed between
India
and Madagascar. India did not cross a ridge, did not have to crumple
Madagascar, did not have to pay 2-0-0...
http://www.scotese.com/K/t.htm
Most reconstructions at 200 Ma show India entirely souther than africa>s
horn.
Reference?
Certainly Scotese>s doesn>t:http://www.scotese.com/newpage8.htm
and a few lines below:
This may help you:http://www.scotese.com/satlanim.htm
with Gujarat/Rajasthan
provinces of India entirely south of Africa>s horn.
So you do believe in continent jumping ridges. Why I>m not surprised...
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Aden didn>t start spreading until after India collided with Asia.
Why am I not surprised?
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Daryl Krupa
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:49 pm Post subject: Re: Florian adrift |
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On Oct 9, 3:10 pm, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
<snip>
[quote]Note that the fractures becomes progressively NWW-SEE,
snip[/quote]
No, they don>t.
Actually, nothing does.
You>re out of it.
- Daryl Krupa |
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Daryl Krupa
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:02 pm Post subject: Re: India adrift |
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On Oct 9, 3:10 pm, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
[quote]George <Geo...@george.net> wrote:
Maxlow is an idiot who has been discredited numerous times. So I suppose
congratulations are in order that he>s suckered you into his scam.
No Ron Yates, *you* are the idiot of the block.
That model made by Maxlow predict a configuration of Siberia/South
China/India/Australia/Antarctica/North america, that is similar to that
determined lately from geological data. See Fig 3A.
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/321/5886/235
[/quote]
From that abstract:
" ... age of 1440 million years ... ":
a dozen times older than the age you claimed.
[quote]Observations => model => prediction => confirmed by independant data.
That how science is supposed to work.
[/quote]
Yes, indeed: but you missed the "observation" part.
Ferme ta gueule, s>il vous plaît, Tête-de-chou.
- Daryl Krupa |
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Daryl Krupa
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: Re: India adrift |
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On Oct 9, 5:44 pm, Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 9, 11:10 am, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:
The ridge that is the mid-ocean Indian ridge originally formed between
India
and Madagascar. India did not cross a ridge, did not have to crumple
Madagascar, did not have to pay 2-0-0...
http://www.scotese.com/K/t.htm
Most reconstructions at 200 Ma show India entirely souther than africa>s
horn.
Reference?
Certainly Scotese>s doesn>t:http://www.scotese.com/newpage8.htm
However, that is not possible as North-West India (Gujarat/Rajasthan
provinces) must remain north of Africa>s horn, because the ridge passes
south of Arabia and North of Ethiopia.
Why does that make any sense? India had already collided with Asia by
the
time Aden opened up.
You seem to be of the opinion the central Indian ridge has always been
extensive
as it is now.
This may help you:http://www.scotese.com/satlanim.htm
snip[/quote]
Or this one:
http://www.scotese.com/indianim.htm
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Florian
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:30 am Post subject: Re: India adrift |
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George <George@george.net> wrote:
[quote]No Ron Yates, *you* are the idiot of the block.
That model made by Maxlow predict a configuration of Siberia/South
China/India/Australia/Antarctica/North america, that is similar to that
determined lately from geological data. See Fig 3A.
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/321/5886/235
Observations => model => prediction => confirmed by independant data.
That how science is supposed to work.
Posting a link t an article from a journal that I have no subscription and
therefore cannot access to doesn>t help your argument.
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A scientist without access to Science? No kidding? What a joke you are.
--
Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
comme ayant toujours été une évidence." - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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Florian
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:30 am Post subject: Re: India adrift |
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Stuart <bigdakine@aol.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 9, 11:10 am, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:
The ridge that is the mid-ocean Indian ridge originally formed between
India
and Madagascar. India did not cross a ridge, did not have to crumple
Madagascar, did not have to pay 2-0-0...
http://www.scotese.com/K/t.htm
Most reconstructions at 200 Ma show India entirely souther than africa>s
horn.
Reference?
Certainly Scotese>s doesn>t: http://www.scotese.com/newpage8.htm
[/quote]
and a few lines below:
[quote]This may help you: http://www.scotese.com/satlanim.htm
[/quote]
with Gujarat/Rajasthan
provinces of India entirely south of Africa>s horn.
So you do believe in continent jumping ridges. Why I>m not surprised...
--
Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
comme ayant toujours été une évidence." - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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Stuart
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:35 am Post subject: Re: India adrift |
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On Oct 10, 2:42 pm, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
[quote]Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:
with Gujarat/Rajasthan
provinces of India entirely south of Africa>s horn.
So you do believe in continent jumping ridges. Why I>m not surprised...
Aden didn>t start spreading until after India collided with Asia.
So what? It does not change nothing to the issue.
So you really don>t understand why it is not possible for the Northwest
part of India to cross the horn...
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Please show where in Scotese>s reconstructions India jumps a ridge.
You have been given the links.
Thanks.
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Stuart
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:46 am Post subject: Re: India adrift |
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On Oct 10, 2:42 pm, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
[quote]Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:
with Gujarat/Rajasthan
provinces of India entirely south of Africa>s horn.
So you do believe in continent jumping ridges. Why I>m not surprised...
Aden didn>t start spreading until after India collided with Asia.
So what? It does not change nothing to the issue.
So you really don>t understand why it is not possible for the Northwest
part of India to cross the horn... Quite amazing.
At least Torsvik is aware about it, as he respected this constraint for
retrofits in his last paper (Fig3a; Torsvik et al, 2008, Reviews of
Geophysics, 46, RG3004 / 2008), even if it does mess up the fit around
antarctica...
Of course, as the bits were once joined on a smaller globe, when one
tries to make them stick all on a larger globe, a hole appears on one
side when one tries to fill the hole on the other side...
[/quote]
Sure EE applies no constraints at all. Why you can have the Earth
stretch this way,
then that way. It can bulge here and there, and now you claim its
bulging at 30S.
Your expansion is completely ad hoc with no constraints of physics or
anything else.
There>s nothing in Tron>s review paper that gives any comfort to EE,
nor is there anything
to suggest India over ran a ridge.
Silly.
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Florian
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:42 am Post subject: Re: India adrift |
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Daryl Krupa <icycalmca@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 9, 3:10 pm, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
George <Geo...@george.net> wrote:
Maxlow is an idiot who has been discredited numerous times. So I suppose
congratulations are in order that he>s suckered you into his scam.
No Ron Yates, *you* are the idiot of the block.
That model made by Maxlow predict a configuration of Siberia/South
China/India/Australia/Antarctica/North america, that is similar to that
determined lately from geological data. See Fig 3A.
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/321/5886/235
From that abstract:
" ... age of 1440 million years ... ":
a dozen times older than the age you claimed.
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Can>t you use your brain?
Do you expect that the configuration has evolved a lot between 150 Ma
and 1440 Ma if the growth during 150 Ma is much larger than that between
150 and 1440 Ma!
Obviously not! And as the pacific was only a margianl bassin at that
time, you expect all the old cratons surrounding the current pacific,
India/Australia/Antarctica/China/Siberia/Laurentia/Amazonia, to be close
to each others at that time.
Guess what? This is exactly what is *observed*.
[quote]Observations => model => prediction => confirmed by independant data.
That how science is supposed to work.
Yes, indeed: but you missed the "observation" part.
[/quote]
Don>t think so. But you certainly forgot your brain in a closet.
[quote]Ferme ta gueule, s>il vous plaît, Tête-de-chou.
[/quote]
Was that supposed to be French?
--
Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
comme ayant toujours été une évidence." - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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Florian
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:42 am Post subject: Re: Florian adrift |
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Daryl Krupa <icycalmca@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 9, 3:10 pm, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
snip
Note that the fractures becomes progressively NWW-SEE,
snip
No, they don>t.
Actually, nothing does.
You>re out of it.
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They do my dear.
Anybody can check it using that illustration from Google Earth:
<http://nachon.free.fr/GE/indian/Eastindian.jpg>
So either you lie, or the data lie.
You>re in trouble because data never lie.
--
Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
comme ayant toujours été une évidence." - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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Florian
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:42 am Post subject: Re: India adrift |
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Stuart <bigdakine@aol.com> wrote:
[quote]with Gujarat/Rajasthan
provinces of India entirely south of Africa>s horn.
So you do believe in continent jumping ridges. Why I>m not surprised...
Aden didn>t start spreading until after India collided with Asia.
[/quote]
So what? It does not change nothing to the issue.
So you really don>t understand why it is not possible for the Northwest
part of India to cross the horn... Quite amazing.
At least Torsvik is aware about it, as he respected this constraint for
retrofits in his last paper (Fig3a; Torsvik et al, 2008, Reviews of
Geophysics, 46, RG3004 / 2008), even if it does mess up the fit around
antarctica...
Of course, as the bits were once joined on a smaller globe, when one
tries to make them stick all on a larger globe, a hole appears on one
side when one tries to fill the hole on the other side...
--
Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
comme ayant toujours été une évidence." - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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Florian
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: India adrift |
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Stuart <bigdakine@aol.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 10, 2:42 pm, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:
with Gujarat/Rajasthan
provinces of India entirely south of Africa>s horn.
So you do believe in continent jumping ridges. Why I>m not surprised...
Aden didn>t start spreading until after India collided with Asia.
So what? It does not change nothing to the issue.
So you really don>t understand why it is not possible for the Northwest
part of India to cross the horn...
Please show where in Scotese>s reconstructions India jumps a ridge.
[/quote]
What don>t you understand in "Northwest part of India to cross the
horn". If it crosses the horn it crosses the indian ocean ridge too.
--
Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
comme ayant toujours été une évidence." - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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Florian
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: India adrift |
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Stuart <bigdakine@aol.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 10, 2:42 pm, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:
with Gujarat/Rajasthan
provinces of India entirely south of Africa>s horn.
So you do believe in continent jumping ridges. Why I>m not surprised...
Aden didn>t start spreading until after India collided with Asia.
So what? It does not change nothing to the issue.
So you really don>t understand why it is not possible for the Northwest
part of India to cross the horn... Quite amazing.
At least Torsvik is aware about it, as he respected this constraint for
retrofits in his last paper (Fig3a; Torsvik et al, 2008, Reviews of
Geophysics, 46, RG3004 / 2008), even if it does mess up the fit around
antarctica...
Of course, as the bits were once joined on a smaller globe, when one
tries to make them stick all on a larger globe, a hole appears on one
side when one tries to fill the hole on the other side...
Sure EE applies no constraints at all.
[/quote]
Oh boy, showing how ignorant you are in matter of planetary growth.
On the contrary, the displacement of cratons are extremely contraint as
they cannot wander all around the globe and their relative displacement
is very limited at the time the growth was much slower, i.e., 150 Ma.
That>s why the planetary growth model can predict the configuration of
cratons billions of years ago. They barely moved as more surface was
empalced between them.
You just can>t get it. Go fishin'
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Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
comme ayant toujours été une évidence." - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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