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Daryl Krupa · Guest

On Oct 8, 1:19 pm, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
[quote]snip
Let me explain you the correct interpretation derived from the isochrons
without using any assumption and based on that figure:

http://nachon.free.fr/GE/indian/Indiadrift.jpg

The isochrons between Australia, the east coast of India and Indonesia
display an extinct ridge oriented
SE-NW
and fractures oriented NS.
snip[/quote]

Florian/JT/Florian/:
Let me explain you the correct interpretation derived from the
isochrons
without using any assumption and based on that figure:
The isochrons between Australia, the east coast of India and
Indonesia
display an extinct ridge oriented
SW-NE
and fractures oriented NS.
I say again:
The only thing you have shown to be true is that
you are incompetent to interpret a simple map.

- Daryl Krupa

Florian · Guest

Daryl Krupa <icycalmca@yahoo.com> wrote:

[quote]I don>t usually take stuff for granted and prefer to check by myself
using hard data and not wishful interpretation that suit preconceived
ideas.

Look again:http://nachon.free.fr/GE/indian/Indiadrift.jpg

Australia was connected to South china 120 Millions years ago
according to the isochrons.
As India was connected to australia at the same time,
then India was close to Asia 120 Millions Ago. As India is currently
connected to Asia, it logically follows that India remained close to
Asia during all that time. Case closed.

Florian:
Case open: you did not interpret the isochrons correctly.
[/quote]
Oh boy, let>s examine your arguments.

[quote]Some of the isochrons that would have appeared between
Australia and Indonesia (not "South China") several million years ago
have been eliminated by the Australian plate>s subduction beneath
the Sunda Plate (i.e,., beneath Indonesia).
[/quote]
Some isochrons between Australia and Indonesia have been eliminated by
Indonesia? Jeeez, that certainly makes a lot of sense...

Let me explain you the correct interpretation derived from the isochrons
without using any assumption and based on that figure:

<http://nachon.free.fr/GE/indian/Indiadrift.jpg>

The isochrons between Australia, the east coast of India and Indonesia
display an extinct ridge oriented SE-NW and fractures oriented NS.
Obviously that ocean floor got overthrusted by bulging indonesia.
Still the existence of that ridge show that western Australia was
connected to a continent in the continuation of India east coats, before
the expansion of Indonesia, i.e., south china.

So about 120 millions years ago Africa/India/Australia/South china were
all connected. This is well illustrated by Maxlow>s model based on
isochrons and geological data:

<http://nachon.free.fr/Maxlow/MaxlowIndia.png>

Note that the other side of India (North West Coast/Gujarat/Rajasthan)
was connected to Arabia and Africa>s horn, down to Madagascar.

--
Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
comme ayant toujours été une évidence." - Arthur Schopenhauer

brad · Guest

On Oct 7, 11:02 pm, J. Taylor <nchiw...@embarqmail.NOSPAM.com> wrote:

[quote]

There is no ocean between India and Asia, and it is imagining to see
one in the past.

When you can admit that little bit will consider progress has been
made.

JT
[/quote]
Please explain the existance of greywackes nestled between India and
Asia.
When you understand the significance of that , then come back and talk
Geology !

Brad

Stuart · Guest

On Oct 8, 2:27 pm, J. Taylor <nchiw...@embarqmail.NOSPAM.com> wrote:
[quote]On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 16:35:29 -0700 (PDT), Daryl Krupa

icycal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Oct 8, 1:19 pm, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
snip
Let me explain you the correct interpretation derived from the isochrons
without using any assumption and based on that figure:

http://nachon.free.fr/GE/indian/Indiadrift.jpg

The isochrons between Australia, the east coast of India and Indonesia
display an extinct ridge oriented
SE-NW
and fractures oriented NS.
snip

Florian/JT/Florian/:
Let me explain you the correct interpretation derived from the
isochrons
without using any assumption and based on that figure:
The isochrons between Australia, the east coast of India and
Indonesia
display an extinct ridge oriented
SW-NE
and fractures oriented NS.
I say again:
The only thing you have shown to be true is that
you are incompetent to interpret a simple map.

- Daryl Krupa

Daryl/Daryl/and your other brother Daryl

Put up a picture so I know what you are talking about.

JT
[/quote]
He>s using FLo>s map in the link given above.

Flo is flat out wrong. In fact, quite frankly,
I have no idea how Flo arrives at SE-NW orientation for a fossil ridge
and I suspect
neither does Daryl.

The only thing I can figure is a comedy of errors where Flo looked at
the
seeming symmetric isochron pattern in the Eastern IO, which does have
a
SE-NW orientation. However, even that wouldn>t be the direction
parallel to the
axis of the fossil ridge. Or maybe Flo doesn>t know his W from his E.

The fracture zones are aligned in a SSW-NNE direction. The spreading
segments have a nearly
E-W axis and the fossil ridge is oriented as Daryl says SW-NE, as
indicated by the "yellow streak"
in the eastern IO. Some pretty good extinct transform faults too.

Still want to publish your ideas Flo?

Stuart

George · Guest

"Florian" <auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net> wrote in message
news:1ioi04m.1nx85yumta8w0N%auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net...
[quote]Daryl Krupa <icycalmca@yahoo.com> wrote:

I don>t usually take stuff for granted and prefer to check by myself
using hard data and not wishful interpretation that suit preconceived
ideas.

Look again:http://nachon.free.fr/GE/indian/Indiadrift.jpg

Australia was connected to South china 120 Millions years ago
according to the isochrons.
As India was connected to australia at the same time,
then India was close to Asia 120 Millions Ago. As India is currently
connected to Asia, it logically follows that India remained close to
Asia during all that time. Case closed.

Florian:
Case open: you did not interpret the isochrons correctly.

Oh boy, let>s examine your arguments.

Some of the isochrons that would have appeared between
Australia and Indonesia (not "South China") several million years ago
have been eliminated by the Australian plate>s subduction beneath
the Sunda Plate (i.e,., beneath Indonesia).

Some isochrons between Australia and Indonesia have been eliminated by
Indonesia? Jeeez, that certainly makes a lot of sense...

Let me explain you the correct interpretation derived from the isochrons
without using any assumption and based on that figure:

http://nachon.free.fr/GE/indian/Indiadrift.jpg

The isochrons between Australia, the east coast of India and Indonesia
display an extinct ridge oriented SE-NW and fractures oriented NS.
Obviously that ocean floor got overthrusted by bulging indonesia.
Still the existence of that ridge show that western Australia was
connected to a continent in the continuation of India east coats, before
the expansion of Indonesia, i.e., south china.

So about 120 millions years ago Africa/India/Australia/South china were
all connected. This is well illustrated by Maxlow>s model based on
isochrons and geological data:

http://nachon.free.fr/Maxlow/MaxlowIndia.png

Note that the other side of India (North West Coast/Gujarat/Rajasthan)
was connected to Arabia and Africa>s horn, down to Madagascar.
[/quote]
Maxlow is an idiot who has been discredited numerous times. So I suppose
congratulations are in order that he>s suckered you into his scam.

George

Daryl Krupa · Guest

On Oct 8, 6:27 pm, J. Taylor <nchiw...@embarqmail.NOSPAM.com> wrote:
<snip>
[quote]Daryl/Daryl/and your other brother Daryl

Put up a picture so I know what you are talking about.
[/quote]
I have put up a picture so that you will know what
_you_ are talking about.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/3rr4bt

- Daryl Krupa

J. Taylor · Guest

On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 16:35:29 -0700 (PDT), Daryl Krupa
<icycalmca@yahoo.com> wrote:

[quote]On Oct 8, 1:19 pm, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
snip
Let me explain you the correct interpretation derived from the isochrons
without using any assumption and based on that figure:

http://nachon.free.fr/GE/indian/Indiadrift.jpg

The isochrons between Australia, the east coast of India and Indonesia
display an extinct ridge oriented
SE-NW
and fractures oriented NS.
snip

Florian/JT/Florian/:
Let me explain you the correct interpretation derived from the
isochrons
without using any assumption and based on that figure:
The isochrons between Australia, the east coast of India and
Indonesia
display an extinct ridge oriented
SW-NE
and fractures oriented NS.
I say again:
The only thing you have shown to be true is that
you are incompetent to interpret a simple map.

- Daryl Krupa
[/quote]
Daryl/Daryl/and your other brother Daryl

Put up a picture so I know what you are talking about.

JT

J. Taylor · Guest

On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 18:34:03 -0400, "George" <George@george.net> wrote:

[quote]
"Florian" <auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net> wrote in message
news:1ioi04m.1nx85yumta8w0N%auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net...
Daryl Krupa <icycalmca@yahoo.com> wrote:

I don>t usually take stuff for granted and prefer to check by myself
using hard data and not wishful interpretation that suit preconceived
ideas.

Look again:http://nachon.free.fr/GE/indian/Indiadrift.jpg

Australia was connected to South china 120 Millions years ago
according to the isochrons.
As India was connected to australia at the same time,
then India was close to Asia 120 Millions Ago. As India is currently
connected to Asia, it logically follows that India remained close to
Asia during all that time. Case closed.

Florian:
Case open: you did not interpret the isochrons correctly.

Oh boy, let>s examine your arguments.

Some of the isochrons that would have appeared between
Australia and Indonesia (not "South China") several million years ago
have been eliminated by the Australian plate>s subduction beneath
the Sunda Plate (i.e,., beneath Indonesia).

Some isochrons between Australia and Indonesia have been eliminated by
Indonesia? Jeeez, that certainly makes a lot of sense...

Let me explain you the correct interpretation derived from the isochrons
without using any assumption and based on that figure:

http://nachon.free.fr/GE/indian/Indiadrift.jpg

The isochrons between Australia, the east coast of India and Indonesia
display an extinct ridge oriented SE-NW and fractures oriented NS.
Obviously that ocean floor got overthrusted by bulging indonesia.
Still the existence of that ridge show that western Australia was
connected to a continent in the continuation of India east coats, before
the expansion of Indonesia, i.e., south china.

So about 120 millions years ago Africa/India/Australia/South china were
all connected. This is well illustrated by Maxlow>s model based on
isochrons and geological data:

http://nachon.free.fr/Maxlow/MaxlowIndia.png

Note that the other side of India (North West Coast/Gujarat/Rajasthan)
was connected to Arabia and Africa>s horn, down to Madagascar.

Maxlow is an idiot who has been discredited numerous times. So I suppose
congratulations are in order that he>s suckered you into his scam.

George
[/quote]
Really? Care to provide a few reference to those claimed discredits?

And you, or any one else, calling him an idiot is not something which
discredits him, it only discredits you.

JT
>

Greatest Mining Pioneer o · Guest

On 9 oct, 02:32, J. Taylor <nchiw...@embarqmail.NOSPAM.com> wrote:
[quote]On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 18:34:03 -0400, "George" <Geo...@george.net> wrote:

"Florian" <auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net> wrote in message
news:1ioi04m.1nx85yumta8w0N%auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net....
Daryl Krupa <icycal...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I don>t usually take stuff for granted and prefer to check by myself
using hard data and not wishful interpretation that suit preconceived
ideas.

Look again:http://nachon.free.fr/GE/indian/Indiadrift.jpg

Australia was connected to South china 120 Millions years ago
according to the isochrons.
As India was connected to australia at the same time,
then India was close to Asia 120 Millions Ago. As India is currently
connected to Asia, it logically follows that India remained close to
Asia during all that time. Case closed.

Florian:
Case open: you did not interpret the isochrons correctly.

Oh boy, let>s examine your arguments.

Some of the isochrons that would have appeared between
Australia and Indonesia (not "South China") several million years ago
have been eliminated by the Australian plate>s subduction beneath
the Sunda Plate (i.e,., beneath Indonesia).

Some isochrons between Australia and Indonesia have been eliminated by
Indonesia? Jeeez, that certainly makes a lot of sense...

Let me explain you the correct interpretation derived from the isochrons
without using any assumption and based on that figure:

http://nachon.free.fr/GE/indian/Indiadrift.jpg

The isochrons between Australia, the east coast of India and Indonesia
display an extinct ridge oriented SE-NW and fractures oriented NS.
Obviously that ocean floor got overthrusted by bulging indonesia.
Still the existence of that ridge show that western Australia was
connected to a continent in the continuation of India east coats, before
the expansion of Indonesia, i.e., south china.

So about 120 millions years ago Africa/India/Australia/South china were
all connected. This is well illustrated by Maxlow>s model based on
isochrons and geological data:

http://nachon.free.fr/Maxlow/MaxlowIndia.png

Note that the other side of India (North West Coast/Gujarat/Rajasthan)
was connected to Arabia and Africa>s horn, down to Madagascar.

Maxlow is an idiot who has been discredited numerous times. So I suppose
congratulations are in order that he>s suckered you into his scam.

George

Really? Care to provide a few reference to those claimed discredits?

And you, or any one else, calling him an idiot is not something which
discredits him, it only discredits you.

JT

[/quote]

Very smart comment !

.... in fact nothing is adrift except the intelligence of George &
sundries... drifting to uncharted dreamlands where Gogos & Gogologists
congregate.

Stuart · Guest

On Oct 9, 11:10 am, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
[quote]Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:
The ridge that is the mid-ocean Indian ridge originally formed between
India
and Madagascar. India did not cross a ridge, did not have to crumple
Madagascar, did not have to pay 2-0-0...

http://www.scotese.com/K/t.htm

Most reconstructions at 200 Ma show India entirely souther than africa>s
horn.
[/quote]
Reference?

Certainly Scotese>s doesn>t: http://www.scotese.com/newpage8.htm

[quote]
However, that is not possible as North-West India (Gujarat/Rajasthan
provinces) must remain north of Africa>s horn, because the ridge passes
south of Arabia and North of Ethiopia.
[/quote]
Why does that make any sense? India had already collided with Asia by
the
time Aden opened up.

You seem to be of the opinion the central Indian ridge has always been
extensive
as it is now.

This may help you: http://www.scotese.com/satlanim.htm
[quote]
http://nachon.free.fr/GE/indian/Indiadrift.jpg

Except for those who believe that India jumped the ridge. Are you one of
these believers?
[/quote]
No, I don>t need fairy tales like EE.

Stuart

Florian · Guest

George <George@george.net> wrote:

[quote]Maxlow is an idiot who has been discredited numerous times. So I suppose
congratulations are in order that he>s suckered you into his scam.
[/quote]
No Ron Yates, *you* are the idiot of the block.
That model made by Maxlow predict a configuration of Siberia/South
China/India/Australia/Antarctica/North america, that is similar to that
determined lately from geological data. See Fig 3A.

<http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/321/5886/235>

Observations => model => prediction => confirmed by independant data.

That how science is supposed to work.

--
Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
comme ayant toujours été une évidence." - Arthur Schopenhauer

Florian · Guest

J. Taylor <nchiwana@embarqmail.NOSPAM.com> wrote:

[quote]There is no ocean between India and Asia, and it is imagining to see
one in the past.
[/quote]
Nuance JT. There was a narrow oceanic basin, but not a 10000 km wide
ocean. That basin got crushed by later crust emplacement.

--
Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
comme ayant toujours été une évidence." - Arthur Schopenhauer

Florian · Guest

Stuart <bigdakine@aol.com> wrote:

[quote]He>s using FLo>s map in the link given above.

Flo is flat out wrong. In fact, quite frankly, I have no idea how Flo
arrives at SE-NW orientation for a fossil ridge and I suspect neither does
Daryl.
[/quote]
<eyes rolling> Are you too dumb to figure out an obvious typo?

[snip]

--
Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
comme ayant toujours été une évidence." - Arthur Schopenhauer

Florian · Guest

Daryl Krupa <icycalmca@yahoo.com> wrote:

[quote]Florian/JT/Florian/:
Let me explain you the correct interpretation derived from the
isochrons without using any assumption and based on that figure: The
isochrons between Australia, the east coast of India and Indonesia display
an extinct ridge oriented SW-NE and fractures oriented NS.
[/quote]
Good boy.

There is an extinct ridge oriented SW-NE, with ridge segments oriented
E-W and perpendicular fractures oriented N-S.

Note that the fractures becomes progressively NWW-SEE, from 90 Ma to
130-140 Ma which means that australia rotated counter clockwise by about
60° during that period.

So, at 140 Ma, the west coast of Australia was jointed to another
continental mass symetrical to this extinct ridge and in the
continuation of India>s east coast. And that continental mass can only
be a piece of current China.

On a growing Earth, that configuration did not change much before 200 Ma
because the growth was much slower than current growth and craton did
not move too much relatively to each others. So one should expect that
australia and China remained close, from archean to 150 Ma. This is
confirmed by geochemical and geological data (*).

Even better, the data also confim that australia was surrounded by
India/Antarctica/China/Laurentia, in good agreement with the growing
earth model made by Maxlow. Case closed.

(*) <http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/321/5886/235>

--
Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
comme ayant toujours été une évidence." - Arthur Schopenhauer

Florian · Guest

Daryl Krupa <icycalmca@yahoo.com> wrote:

[quote]I don>t usually take stuff for granted and prefer to check by myself
using hard data and not wishful interpretation that suit preconceived
ideas.

Look again:http://nachon.free.fr/GE/indian/Indiadrift.jpg

Australia was connected to South china 120 Millions years ago
according to the isochrons.
As India was connected to australia at the same time,
then India was close to Asia 120 Millions Ago. As India is currently
connected to Asia, it logically follows that India remained close to
Asia during all that time. Case closed.

Florian:
Case open: you did not interpret the isochrons correctly.
[/quote]
Oh boy, let>s examine your arguments.

[quote]Some of the isochrons that would have appeared between
Australia and Indonesia (not "South China") several million years ago
have been eliminated by the Australian plate>s subduction beneath
the Sunda Plate (i.e,., beneath Indonesia).
[/quote]
Some isochrons between Australia and Indonesia have been eliminated by
Indonesia? Jeeez, that certainly makes a lot of sense...

Let me explain you the correct interpretation derived from the isochrons
without using any assumption and based on that figure:

<http://nachon.free.fr/GE/indian/Indiadrift.jpg>

The isochrons between Australia, the east coast of India and Indonesia
display an extinct ridge oriented SW-NE and fractures oriented NS.
Obviously that ocean floor got overthrusted by bulging indonesia.
Still the existence of that ridge show that western Australia was
connected to a continent in the continuation of India east coats, before
the expansion of Indonesia, i.e., south china.

So about 120 millions years ago Africa/India/Australia/South china were
all connected. This is well illustrated by Maxlow>s model based on
isochrons and geological data:

<http://nachon.free.fr/Maxlow/MaxlowIndia.png>

Note that the other side of India (North West Coast/Gujarat/Rajasthan)
was connected to Arabia and Africa>s horn, down to Madagascar.

--
Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
comme ayant toujours été une évidence." - Arthur Schopenhauer


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