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I>ve Been Telling You This For Years
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:46 am    Post subject: I>ve Been Telling You This For Years Reply with quote

DAYTON, Ohio — If only we could be a fly on the wall when our enemies
are plotting to attack us. Better yet, what if that fly could record
voices, transmit video and even fire tiny weapons?

That kind of James Bond-style fantasy is actually on the drawing
board. U.S. military engineers are trying to design flying robots
disguised as insects that could one day spy on enemies and conduct
dangerous missions without risking lives.

"The way we envision it is, there would be a bunch of these sent out
in a swarm," said Greg Parker, who helps lead the research project at
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton. "If we know there>s a
possibility of bad guys in a certain building, how do we find out? We
think this would fill that void."

In essence, the research seeks to miniaturize the Unmanned Aerial
Vehicle drones used in Iraq and Afghanistan for surveillance and
reconnaissance.

The next generation of drones, called Micro Aerial Vehicles, or MAVs,
could be as tiny as bumblebees and capable of flying undetected into
buildings, where they could photograph, record, and even attack
insurgents and terrorists.

By identifying and assaulting adversaries more precisely, the robots
would also help reduce or avoid civilian casualties, the military
says.

Parker and his colleagues plan to start by developing a bird-sized
robot as soon as 2015, followed by the insect-sized models by 2030.

The vehicles could be useful on battlefields where the biggest
challenge is collecting reliable intelligence about enemies.

"If we could get inside the buildings and inside the rooms where their
activities are unfolding, we would be able to get the kind of
intelligence we need to shut them down," said Loren Thompson, a
defense analyst with the Lexington Institute in Arlington, Va.

Philip Coyle, senior adviser with the Center for Defense Information
in Washington D.C., said a major hurdle would be enabling the vehicles
to carry the weight of cameras and microphones.

"If you make the robot so small that it>s like a bumblebee and then
you ask the bumblebee to carry a video camera and everything else, it
may not be able to get off the ground," Coyle said.

Parker envisions the bird-sized vehicles as being able to spy on
adversaries by flying into cities and perching on building ledges or
power lines. The vehicles would have flappable wings as a disguise but
use a separate propulsion system to fly.

"We think the flapping is more so people don>t notice it," he said.
"They think it>s a bird."

Unlike the bird-sized vehicles, the insect-sized ones would actually
use flappable wings to fly, Parker said.

He said engineers want to build a vehicle with a 1-inch wingspan,
possibly made of an elastic material. The vehicle would have sensors
to help avoid slamming into buildings or other objects.

Existing airborne robots are flown by a ground-based pilot, but the
smaller versions would fly independently, relying on preprogrammed
instructions.

Parker said the tiny vehicles should also be able to withstand bumps.

"If you look at insects, they can bounce off of walls and keep
flying," he said. "You can>t do that with a big airplane, but I don>t
see any reason we can>t do that with a small one."

An Air Force video describing the vehicles said they could possibly
carry chemicals or explosives for use in attacks.

Once prototypes are developed, they will be flight-tested in a new
building at Wright-Patterson dubbed the "micro aviary" for Micro Air
Vehicle Integration Application Research Institute.

"This type of technology is really the wave of the future," Thompson
said. "More and more military research is going into things that are
small, that are precise and that are extremely focused on particular
types of missions or activities."
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: I>ve Been Telling You This For Years Reply with quote

On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 02:46:53 -0800 (PST), HVAC <MR.HVAC@gmail.com>
wrote:

[quote]DAYTON, Ohio — If only we could be a fly on the wall when our enemies
are plotting to attack us. Better yet, what if that fly could record
voices, transmit video and even fire tiny weapons?
[/quote]
Flies have no enemies. Eat more shit! Everything will be ok - even for
you!

(P.S.: one really wonders how long it will take for our typical
US-republican to get rid of its paranoia ...)
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: I>ve Been Telling You This For Years Reply with quote

I see you>ve gotten your kook batteries re-charged there, Chuckie.



<UseNetOnly@t-online.de> wrote in message
news:h1tfi4lki86i52l7ubg51dh4ivjnle2qal@pasoschweiz.de...
[quote]
Flies have no enemies.
[/quote]

Spiders?

Cats? http://www.wral.com/lifestyles/pets/blogpost/1623490/
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:21 pm    Post subject: Re: I>ve Been Telling You This For Years Reply with quote

On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:12:34 -0500, "HVAC" <harlowcampbell@gmail.com>
wrote:

I tell you a secret: this whole universe has just one special purpose -

to scare the shit out of you!

C.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:04 pm    Post subject: Re: I>ve Been Telling You This For Years Reply with quote

<UseNetOnly@t-online.de> wrote in message
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[quote]On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:12:34 -0500, "HVAC" <harlowcampbell@gmail.com
wrote:

I tell you a secret: this whole universe has just one special purpose -

to scare the shit out of you!
[/quote]

With your help, the universe is doing a good job.
I>ve seen your picture. Yikes!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:47 am    Post subject: Re: I>ve Been Telling You This For Years Reply with quote

On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:04:36 -0500, "HVAC" <harlowcampbell@gmail.com>
wrote:

[quote]With your help, the universe is doing a good job.
I>ve seen your picture.
[/quote]
Yes.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:10 am    Post subject: Re: I>ve Been Telling You This For Years Reply with quote

<UseNetOnly@t-online.de> wrote in message
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[quote]On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:12:34 -0500, "HVAC" <harlowcampbell@gmail.com
wrote:

I tell you a secret: this whole universe has just one special purpose -

to scare the shit out of you!

C.
[/quote]
Well, Chukweasel, it looks as if it already has scared the brains (shit) out
of you, you idiotic fruitcake. See below:
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dgfwg98t_2cg8pc5c6
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:24 am    Post subject: Re: I>ve Been Telling You This For Years Reply with quote

<UseNetOnly@t-online.de> wrote in message
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[quote]On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:04:36 -0500, "HVAC" <harlowcampbell@gmail.com
wrote:

With your help, the universe is doing a good job.
I>ve seen your picture.

Yes.
[/quote]
Chuckweasel, how he perceives himself, and his gay teddy bear.
http://www.pasoschweiz.de/

The lunatic is on the Net
The lunatic is on the Net
Remembering games and teddy bears and laughs
We>ve got to keep that loony on the path

The lunatic is in Chuck>s head
The lunatic is in Chuck>s head
They raise the blade, they make the change
They re-arrange him till he>s sane.
We slam the door and change the lock,
There>s someone in his head but its not Chuck.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:28 am    Post subject: Re: I>ve Been Telling You This For Years Reply with quote

<UseNetOnly@t-online.de> wrote in message
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[quote]On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 02:46:53 -0800 (PST), HVAC <MR.HVAC@gmail.com
wrote:

DAYTON, Ohio - If only we could be a fly on the wall when our enemies
are plotting to attack us. Better yet, what if that fly could record
voices, transmit video and even fire tiny weapons?

Flies have no enemies. Eat more shit! Everything will be ok - even for
you!
[/quote]
Oh yea ??? What about THIS secret weapon ??

http://majman.net/fly_loader.html

Have fun, ChuckieLoon
Your pal, Hagar
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:27 am    Post subject: Re: I>ve Been Telling You This For Years Reply with quote

On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:24:45 -0800, "Hagar" <hsahm@surewest.net> wrote:

[quote]Chuckweasel, how he perceives himself, and his gay teddy bear.
http://www.pasoschweiz.de/

The lunatic is on the Net
The lunatic is on the Net
Remembering games and teddy bears and laughs
We>ve got to keep that loony on the path

The lunatic is in Chuck>s head
The lunatic is in Chuck>s head
They raise the blade, they make the change
They re-arrange him till he>s sane.
We slam the door and change the lock,
There>s someone in his head but its not Chuck.
[/quote]
I>ve never heard of a gay teddy bear. ... On the other hand, just in
case you are able to understand where your failed politics in the 21th
century has brought you, DON>T YOU THINK you had bigger problems to
ponder?
C.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:37 am    Post subject: Re: I>ve Been Telling You This For Years Reply with quote

On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:10:45 -0800, "Hagar" <hsahm@surewest.net> wrote:

[quote]Well, Chukweasel, it looks as if it already has scared the brains (shit) out
of you, you idiotic fruitcake. See below:
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dgfwg98t_2cg8pc5c6
[/quote]
I>m not interested in your links nor in your little games - and there is
no "insight" that I expect from the village-idiot of
"alt.alien.research,alt.atheism,alt.paranormal.crop-circles,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic"

Let me put it simply in these words: Bush is history, you>re a footnote
to Usenet-history.

Bye*
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:10 am    Post subject: Re: I>ve Been Telling You This For Years Reply with quote

<UseNetOnly@t-online.de> wrote in message
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[quote]On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:24:45 -0800, "Hagar" <hsahm@surewest.net> wrote:

Chuckweasel, how he perceives himself, and his gay teddy bear.
http://www.pasoschweiz.de/

The lunatic is on the Net
The lunatic is on the Net
Remembering games and teddy bears and laughs
We>ve got to keep that loony on the path

The lunatic is in Chuck>s head
The lunatic is in Chuck>s head
They raise the blade, they make the change
They re-arrange him till he>s sane.
We slam the door and change the lock,
There>s someone in his head but its not Chuck.

I>ve never heard of a gay teddy bear. ... On the other hand, just in
case you are able to understand where your failed politics in the 21th
century has brought you, DON>T YOU THINK you had bigger problems to
ponder?
C.
[/quote]
Well ChuckWeasel, looks like you Yurpn dumbasses are going down the drain
with us, then. But I guess you don>t read the papers.

And no, I didn>t fail in politics. Didn>t vote for McCain and certainly not
for the Mongrel.

On the other hand, I>m doing quite well, as a matter of fact, and don>t
personally have any bigger problems to ponder, much to your chagrin.

Regarding the gay teddy bear, it wasn>t gay until you decorated it "gaily"
with sunglasses, earphones and a bow tie; a proxy extension of your own
latent traits, no doubt.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:14 am    Post subject: Re: I>ve Been Telling You This For Years Reply with quote

<UseNetOnly@t-online.de> wrote in message
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[quote]On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:10:45 -0800, "Hagar" <hsahm@surewest.net> wrote:

Well, Chukweasel, it looks as if it already has scared the brains (shit)
out
of you, you idiotic fruitcake. See below:
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dgfwg98t_2cg8pc5c6

I>m not interested in your links nor in your little games - and there is
no "insight" that I expect from the village-idiot of
"alt.alien.research,alt.atheism,alt.paranormal.crop-circles,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic"

Let me put it simply in these words: Bush is history, you>re a footnote
to Usenet-history.

Bye*
[/quote]
Don>t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, ChuckWeasel.
Does that mean we are rid of your pretentious carcass for good ???
And they said miracles don>t happen ........
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:35 am    Post subject: Re: I>ve Been Telling You This For Years Reply with quote

On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 14:14:55 -0800, "Hagar" <hsahm@surewest.net> wrote:

[quote]Bush is history, you>re a footnote
to Usenet-history.

Bye*

Don>t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, ChuckWeasel.
Does that mean we are rid of your pretentious carcass for good ???
And they said miracles don>t happen ........
[/quote]
I am here to stay. Learn to read.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:35 am    Post subject: Re: I>ve Been Telling You This For Years Reply with quote

On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 14:10:30 -0800, "Hagar" <hsahm@surewest.net> wrote:

[quote]Well ChuckWeasel, looks like you Yurpn dumbasses are going down the drain
with us, then. But I guess you don>t read the papers.

My personal fate is of no importance. By reading papers I won>t be able[/quote]
to change anything.

[quote]And no, I didn>t fail in politics. Didn>t vote for McCain and certainly not
for the Mongrel.

SURE -> YOU NEVER VOTE FOR ANYBODY. Democracy for you means[/quote]
that you are always right.

[quote]On the other hand, I>m doing quite well, as a matter of fact, and don>t
personally have any bigger problems to ponder, much to your chagrin.

I know, ... that>s because you>re an idiot.[/quote]

[quote]Regarding the gay teddy bear, it wasn>t gay until you decorated it "gaily"
with sunglasses, earphones and a bow tie; a proxy extension of your own
latent traits, no doubt.

Gay by "gaily decoration?"[/quote]

Have a look at our black buffaloes:
http://www.wanderland.ch/de/routen_list.cfm?start=21&tour=etappe&region=006
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