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peterG · Guest

I am going to be retiring to Mexico.
I can no longer afford to live in USA on my pension.

Can anyone give me any tips advice on what I should
look for when I visit a dentist>s office in such a
country in order to determine if the practitioner is
any good? I know a little about dentistry but not that much. Or what
questions I can ask when making an appointment. Some of these guys speak
English well.

I know I am going to get some replies that say
forget about mexican dentists, they are no good.
But I think this is not correct because so many
Americans have good things to say about them; I will
have no choice, since I will be living there.

I>d appreciate any replies that address my question.
Thanks.

Guest · Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:57 am Post subject: Re: How to Judge a good dentist

You may want to read my book,

"Insider>s guide to gum disease, orthodontics, and dentistry. What is
not taught in dental school."

David DiBenedetto, DMD.

peterG · Guest

Like I said, I>d appreciate any replies that attempt to ANSWER MY
QUESTION. Thanks (maybe their afraid of the competition?)

peterG <peterG@nothotmail.com> wrote in
news:ge7upe$g3t$1@news.albasani.net:

[quote]I am going to be retiring to Mexico.
I can no longer afford to live in USA on my pension.

Can anyone give me any tips advice on what I should
look for when I visit a dentist>s office in such a
country in order to determine if the practitioner is
any good? I know a little about dentistry but not that much. Or what
questions I can ask when making an appointment. Some of these guys
speak English well.

I know I am going to get some replies that say
forget about mexican dentists, they are no good.
But I think this is not correct because so many
Americans have good things to say about them; I will
have no choice, since I will be living there.

I>d appreciate any replies that address my question.
Thanks.[/quote]

CA-DDS tired of BS · Guest

Never get root canal done in Mexico

"peterG" <peterG@nothotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ge7upe$g3t$1@news.albasani.net...
[quote]I am going to be retiring to Mexico.
I can no longer afford to live in USA on my pension.

Can anyone give me any tips advice on what I should
look for when I visit a dentist>s office in such a
country in order to determine if the practitioner is
any good? I know a little about dentistry but not that much. Or what
questions I can ask when making an appointment. Some of these guys speak
English well.

I know I am going to get some replies that say
forget about mexican dentists, they are no good.
But I think this is not correct because so many
Americans have good things to say about them; I will
have no choice, since I will be living there.

I>d appreciate any replies that address my question.
Thanks.[/quote]

Amatus Cremona · Guest

The same issues that apply for choosing a dentist in the USA.

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Amatus

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"peterG" <peterG@nothotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ge7upe$g3t$1@news.albasani.net...
[quote]I am going to be retiring to Mexico.
I can no longer afford to live in USA on my pension.

Can anyone give me any tips advice on what I should
look for when I visit a dentist>s office in such a
country in order to determine if the practitioner is
any good? I know a little about dentistry but not that much. Or what
questions I can ask when making an appointment. Some of these guys speak
English well.

I know I am going to get some replies that say
forget about mexican dentists, they are no good.
But I think this is not correct because so many
Americans have good things to say about them; I will
have no choice, since I will be living there.

I>d appreciate any replies that address my question.
Thanks.[/quote]

Vaughn Simon · Guest

"peterG" <peterG@nothotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ge8cqa$6ak$1@news.albasani.net...
[quote]Like I said, I>d appreciate any replies that attempt to ANSWER MY
QUESTION. Thanks (maybe their afraid of the competition?)
[/quote]
There is virtually no way for a patient to judge the competence of a dentist,
particularly one who has never worked on you. The best you can do is use your
eyes, ears, and nose to tell if the office seems like it is well-equipped,
clean, and ran in a businesslike manner. Naturally, a recommendation from a
satisfied patient or two would be a wonderful thing.

You will need to invest in an initial exam and treatment plan with the
dentist you select, and then decide if you want to go back for treatment.

Vaughn (not in the dental biz)

Dartos · Guest

peterG wrote:

[quote]I am going to be retiring to Mexico.
I can no longer afford to live in USA on my pension.

Thanks.
[/quote]
If you have a pension plus social security, I doubt that statement
to be true. Maybe you can>t live in San Fran, LA, Denver, Chicago,
or NYC, but there are many other options in the old US of A that
are pretty economical.

What>s your monthly income with both the pension and SS check?

D

soothsayer · Guest

peterG <peterG@nothotmail.com> wrote in
news:ge8cqa$6ak$1@news.albasani.net:

[quote]Like I said, I>d appreciate any replies that attempt to ANSWER MY
QUESTION. Thanks (maybe their afraid of the competition?)
[/quote]
not "maybe" that>s exactly why they are not answering.
like most of USA "professionals" nowadays, they are mostly a bunch of
greedy little whores who have no interest in helping anyone unless it
enlarges their pocketbooks. Try the Mexican Guide to Doctors, its on the
web; gives all the web pages of Mexican Dentists as an aide to shopping.
There is alot of information on the web including positive experience
accounts of those getting good dental services for 40-50% less than the
high fees they charge in the USA. If something goes wrong you won>t be
able to sue, but it is really difficult to sue even in the USA because
the other greedy profession, lawyers, only wants slam dunk easy cases.
But at least you may not have to put up with the bullshit thrown around
by usenet assholes, like most of the ones who replied to you.

[quote]
peterG <peterG@nothotmail.com> wrote in
news:ge7upe$g3t$1@news.albasani.net:

I am going to be retiring to Mexico.
I can no longer afford to live in USA on my pension.

Can anyone give me any tips advice on what I should
look for when I visit a dentist>s office in such a
country in order to determine if the practitioner is
any good? I know a little about dentistry but not that much. Or what
questions I can ask when making an appointment. Some of these guys
speak English well.

I know I am going to get some replies that say
forget about mexican dentists, they are no good.
But I think this is not correct because so many
Americans have good things to say about them; I will
have no choice, since I will be living there.

I>d appreciate any replies that address my question.
Thanks.

[/quote]

Dartos · Guest

IIRC, it was the California dude who said $300K was chickenfeed.
You didn>t hear any of 'us' making such a statement!

Dream on.

D

soothsayer wrote:

[quote]peterG <peterG@nothotmail.com> wrote in
news:ge8cqa$6ak$1@news.albasani.net:

Like I said, I>d appreciate any replies that attempt to ANSWER MY
QUESTION. Thanks (maybe their afraid of the competition?)

not "maybe" that>s exactly why they are not answering.
like most of USA "professionals" nowadays, they are mostly a bunch of
greedy little whores who have no interest in helping anyone unless it
enlarges their pocketbooks. Try the Mexican Guide to Doctors, its on the
web; gives all the web pages of Mexican Dentists as an aide to shopping.
There is alot of information on the web including positive experience
accounts of those getting good dental services for 40-50% less than the
high fees they charge in the USA. If something goes wrong you won>t be
able to sue, but it is really difficult to sue even in the USA because
the other greedy profession, lawyers, only wants slam dunk easy cases.
But at least you may not have to put up with the bullshit thrown around
by usenet assholes, like most of the ones who replied to you.

peterG <peterG@nothotmail.com> wrote in
news:ge7upe$g3t$1@news.albasani.net:

I am going to be retiring to Mexico.
I can no longer afford to live in USA on my pension.

Can anyone give me any tips advice on what I should
look for when I visit a dentist>s office in such a
country in order to determine if the practitioner is
any good? I know a little about dentistry but not that much. Or what
questions I can ask when making an appointment. Some of these guys
speak English well.

I know I am going to get some replies that say
forget about mexican dentists, they are no good.
But I think this is not correct because so many
Americans have good things to say about them; I will
have no choice, since I will be living there.

I>d appreciate any replies that address my question.
Thanks.

[/quote]

Simplicio · Guest

On Oct 28, 8:33 pm, "Vaughn Simon" <vaughnsimonHATESS...@att.FAKE.net>
wrote:
[quote]"peterG" <pet...@nothotmail.com> wrote in message

news:ge8cqa$6ak$1@news.albasani.net...

Like I said, I>d appreciate any replies that attempt to ANSWER MY
QUESTION. Thanks (maybe their afraid of the competition?)

There is virtually no way for a patient to judge the competence of a dentist,
particularly one who has never worked on you. The best you can do is use your
eyes, ears, and nose to tell if the office seems like it is well-equipped,
clean, and ran in a businesslike manner. Naturally, a recommendation from a
satisfied patient or two would be a wonderful thing.

You will need to invest in an initial exam and treatment plan with the
dentist you select, and then decide if you want to go back for treatment.

Vaughn (not in the dental biz)
[/quote]
I sure got ruined by a dentist. By the way I looked up name in the
courthouse and found out he and (the practice owner) had been sued by
a hygenist for slander, and he sued the practice owner for $400K in
92. On the surface though everything looked fine, office seemed clean,
no one seem retarded, (although he wasn>t the brightest bulb on the
block). But here is a clue. He kept switching hygenists, assistants.
The quality and longevity of the assistants
is a window into the soul of the practice!

Simplicio · Guest

On Oct 29, 8:48 pm, soothsayer <soothsa...@yomamma.org> wrote:
[quote]peterG <pet...@nothotmail.com> wrote innews:ge8cqa$6ak$1@news.albasani.net:

Like I said, I>d appreciate any replies that attempt to ANSWER MY
QUESTION. Thanks (maybe their afraid of the competition?)

not "maybe" that>s exactly why they are not answering.
like most of USA "professionals" nowadays, they are mostly a bunch of
greedy little whores who have no interest in helping anyone unless it
enlarges their pocketbooks. Try the Mexican Guide to Doctors, its on the
web; gives all the web pages of Mexican Dentists as an aide to shopping.
There is alot of information on the web including positive experience
accounts of those getting good dental services for 40-50% less than the
high fees they charge in the USA. If something goes wrong you won>t be
able to sue, but it is really difficult to sue even in the USA because
the other greedy profession, lawyers, only wants slam dunk easy cases.
[/quote]
Not to mention judges, who are also lawyers. Most won>t even read past
5 pages on a complaint and show up to
court a half hour late. They can make stuff up by saying, but isn>t
that the OPINION of so and so? What is the goal
of a judge? Go with the flow and show a heavy bias towards the
business community, including the ADA to get reappointed to their
judgeship.

George Orwell · Guest

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dane4695@gmail.com · Guest

On Oct 29, 6:48 pm, soothsayer <soothsa...@yomamma.org> wrote:
[quote]peterG <pet...@nothotmail.com> wrote innews:ge8cqa$6ak$1@news.albasani.net:

Like I said, I>d appreciate any replies that attempt to ANSWER MY
QUESTION. Thanks (maybe their afraid of the competition?)

not "maybe" that>s exactly why they are not answering.
like most of USA "professionals" nowadays, they are mostly a bunch of
greedy little whores who have no interest in helping anyone unless it
enlarges their pocketbooks. Try the Mexican Guide to Doctors, its on the
web; gives all the web pages of Mexican Dentists as an aide to shopping.
There is alot of information on the web including positive experience
accounts of those getting good dental services for 40-50% less than the
high fees they charge in the USA. If something goes wrong you won>t be
able to sue, but it is really difficult to sue even in the USA because
the other greedy profession, lawyers, only wants slam dunk easy cases.
But at least you may not have to put up with the bullshit thrown around
by usenet assholes, like most of the ones who replied to you.

peterG <pet...@nothotmail.com> wrote in
news:ge7upe$g3t$1@news.albasani.net:

I am going to be retiring to Mexico.
I can no longer afford to live in USA on my pension.

Can anyone give me any tips advice on what I should
look for when I visit a dentist>s office in such a
country in order to determine if the practitioner is
any good? I know a little about dentistry but not that much. Or what
questions I can ask when making an appointment. Some of these guys
speak English well.

I know I am going to get some replies that say
forget about mexican dentists, they are no good.
But I think this is not correct because so many
Americans have good things to say about them; I will
have no choice, since I will be living there.

I>d appreciate any replies that address my question.
Thanks.
[/quote]
"nowadays, they are mostly a bunch of
greedy little whores who have no interest in helping anyone unless it
enlarges their pocketbooks. "

These statements are so out of line. I am about to graduate dental
school with 250k in DEBT. That means I am starting with a HUGE
deficit. Lets compare that to a 4 year degree like the average
accountant. They starts their job with no debt. 4 years of school,
and make 50-70k a year. I>ll make slightly more than that, but with
loans my adjusted income will be nil. If you want dentists to stop
being "greedy" maybe the US government should start subsidizing dental
education (not to say there aren>t some that are too business
oriented, but come on they are the minority not the majority).

As for dentists in Mexico, I am sure there are good ones. I hope
their are good ones. I have seen many patients that came in with
dentistry in their mouths that was far below the US standard of care.
Things like Amalgams (silver fillings) stretched in a "bridge-like
fashion" (connecting the teeth so you can>t floss) from 2 to 4 (MO,
MOD, DO), bridges that didn>t fit and were seated anyway, root canals
that were more like pulpotomy work with a but of gutta percha
passively placed. I would like to think that it would be impossible
for a patient to receive this type of care without the patient
bringing them to the dental board. In the case of my last patient,
she needed full mouth reconstruction to the tune of 30,000 USD --
that>s because she had 21 units of crown and bridge placed, all with
open margins and now every crown but one has recurrent decay.

Now that I>ve said all that, if I was going to look for a dentist in
Mexico, I>d probably want to see the following:

A clean office. I would need to be able to speak with them on a
coherent level at least (i speak spanish, so that wouldn>t be an issue
for me, but if you didn>t, I>d make sure you can communicate well).
I>d want him to be friendly. Now if you make it beyond that point -
I>d like him to do a thorough evaluation on my on our first visit -
like checking for oral cancer, all my cavities, appropriate xrays (you
might not know exactly what is appropriate, but lets say you already
know what>s wrong with you as you>ve said it>s "too expensive" - you
should have a rough idea of what teeth he should be looking at). For
that matter - if you know what>s wrong, see if he finds it. Don>t
think that just because this doctor said something isn>t wrong that
that means it isn>t. That>s my best advice, and it is not a full
proof way to finding a "good" dentist.

Anyway, best of luck to you in your search for a new dentist. I would
say that there are plenty of places where you can live with little to
no income, get dental tx, and be happy. However, if you>ve made up
your mind, enjoy mexico and the health care they can offer. I, for
one, will never pursue discount health care or dental, because I>ve
seen first hand what the discounts do to the quality of treatment.

Simplicio · Guest

On Nov 9, 9:25 am, "dane4...@gmail.com" <dane4...@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 29, 6:48 pm, soothsayer <soothsa...@yomamma.org> wrote:

peterG <pet...@nothotmail.com> wrote innews:ge8cqa$6ak$1@news.albasani.net:

Like I said, I>d appreciate any replies that attempt to ANSWER MY
QUESTION. Thanks (maybe their afraid of the competition?)

"nowadays, they are mostly a bunch of
greedy little whores who have no interest in helping anyone unless it
enlarges their pocketbooks. "

These statements are so out of line. I am about to graduate dental
school with 250k in DEBT. That means I am starting with a HUGE
deficit. Lets compare that to a 4 year degree like the average
accountant. They starts their job with no debt. 4 years of school,
and make 50-70k a year. I>ll make slightly more than that, but with
loans my adjusted income will be nil. If you want dentists to stop
being "greedy" maybe the US government should start subsidizing dental
education
[/quote]
This actually supports the poster>s assumption. You have said that
dentists are justified in "being greedy" because
they graduate school in much more debt, "unless the US government
starts subsidizing them."

Should dentists be added to the list of "greedy" industries seeking
bailouts? car manufacturers , farmers, wall street?

Personally I have no sympathy for these kinds of arguments. For one
thing, these days many people out of
high school cannot even afford college and go into debt to get a
degree. Secondly you could easily calculate the amount of debt you
would be in before you went to dental school. At that time you had a
regular degree and could have opted for the accounting job. Dental
schools require a BS degree, correct? Therefore you went to dental
school because for one thing you thought it would be a good long term
financial deal which would be in your best interests and opted out of
the accounting job.

Guest · Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:05 am Post subject: Re: How to Judge a good dentist

On Oct 28, 4:04 pm, peterG <pet...@nothotmail.com> wrote:
[quote]I am going to be retiring to Mexico.
I can no longer afford to live in USA on my pension.

Can anyone give me any tips advice on what I should
look for when I visit a dentist>s office in such a
country in order to determine if the practitioner is
any good? I know a little about dentistry but not that much. Or what
questions I can ask when making an appointment. Some of these guys speak
English well.

I know I am going to get some replies that say
forget about mexican dentists, they are no good.
But I think this is not correct because so many
Americans have good things to say about them; I will
have no choice, since I will be living there.

I>d appreciate any replies that address my question.
Thanks.
[/quote]
The best way to judge the quality of a dentist is by his/her
thoroughness of the examination. A complete exam is not done to find
more work to do, but is a duty of the dentist, on one hand, and
something owed to the patient, on the other.
A good exam covers cancer screening, soft tissues, gums, muscles,
joints, bite, teeth, old restorations, and aesthetic concerns. It
includes photographs and radiographs, sometime even study models. A
good exam is followed by a consultation, with time taken to go over
with the patients over their concerns, questions, and bring up finding
uncovered during the exam. An explanation of the problems found, the
consequences of no treatment, the risk and benefits of treatment, and
costs involved.
The critical point is found at the end of this consultation
appointment; if the dentist gives the patient options, phases of the
treatment, and allows for patient input in the decision and speed of
the treatment process, chances are the dentist is not only good, but
also honest! If the dentist is pushing for fast decisions, scares with
dire consequences if not treated, wants to start right now... the best
interest of the patient is not coming first!

Michael


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