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Neal · Guest

"kathycarp" <kathycarp@comcast.net> wrote in message
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[quote]On Nov 26, 3:41 pm, "Neal" <nealbro...@msn.com> wrote:
Okay, I give.... who is JTP? Yeah, I could look it up - maybe. No, I
couldn>t.

Darn, I didn>t watch the hole video - found it very boring. As usual, I
haven>t read much of this thread, but what I see so far is:

Marsha don>t like somebody.

Bright Star either does like or does not like somebody - I>m not sure.

Doug is on the side of.... or on his side of.... let>s see.... I better
go
back and read what he is about.

Sue is ranting.

Gisele is writing.

Rae is 'rithmatic. (Not really, but it seems to fit.)

Anne V. don>t like Palin and may be afraid of dogs.

Barbara C. likes the great unwashed masses ( a term a judge friend of
mine
likes to use.)

Judity wants everybody>s opinion about POT - I prefer made in brownies,
but
I quit smoking years ago. (Okay, so I was too chicken to try the
brownies -
so sue me!

Ed don>t read his e-mail, so probably missed this entire thread.

I keep wondering if Jody Corbett is married to Dan. Dan was my son>s best
friend in high school.

kathycarp has something going for bees and is trying to make a Dodge
pickem-up truck get bigger.

Jay is watching The Matrix.

Becky is...

William McHenry Outlaw is probably a soupanim or something.

Donna likes Puching Daisies or Punching Daiseys or something like that.

Romy must like jazz.

Did I miss anyone?

I don>t Oops I got 20 minutes to get a C-Phone shipped!!!!

"Marsha" <m...@xeb.net> wrote in
messagenews:ggkja5$oet$1@news.datemas.de...
Gisele wrote:
Where did you get the idea that "so many" thought JTP was presidential
material?

McCain called this idiot "his mentor" on the campaign trail! How
stoopid
is that?

Gisele

Well, I found something - on Huffington Post of course. I>d rather have
JTP as a mentor than Wright or any of the other wonderful folks Obama
seems to think give great advice.

Marsha- Hide quoted text -

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Neal, I get the "bees" part about me, but the Dodge pick-em-up truck?
Did I post in my sleep again? I don>t remember anything about a Dodge,
a pick-up (though I can still hope to be :), or a truck.

Kathy
[/quote]
I think you said something about Dakota - a small Dodge pickem-up truck,
something about it growing up. Maybe you want a Ram 1500??

Neal

Guest · Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject: Re: How Obama Got Elected

You>re not just punchy, Anne, I think you are correct. But I think it
may be more pathetic than funny!

Bright Spark

On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:13:18 -0600, "Anne V."
<ahvasquez@NOSPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote:

[quote]When you think about it, it>s kind of funny that we>re still having this
debate. Or maybe I>m just punchy. ;-)

Anne

Bright Spark> wrote in message
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So I would expect that the frantic debate should really be which is
worse -- a mentor or as a role model?

Bright Spark

[/quote]

Rae · Guest

Yes, Doug - IMAGINE the tarring and feathering that would have gone on
if Michelle Obama had supported a group recommending Illinois leave
the union. OMG!

Guest · Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:27 am Post subject: Re: How Obama Got Elected

[quote]Actually, Doug, it>s called criticism. Moaning is what the left does.
They>re (YGY) like little children who stamp their collective feet
whenever they don>t get their way. Sort of Peter Pan-like if you will.
The gays in California who didn>t get their way are a good example.
Marsha
[/quote]

Again Marsha, you need to double up on the dose of Kool-Aid because
again you are speaking about more things that you know nothing about.
You try having your rights taken away. I wish you were told that you
could not be married and then you may understand this. There are
many Californians who voted YES, who feel deceived because the
propaganda that was put forth in CA had nothing to do with equality.
It had to do with lies. They believed the lies and the propaganda
that the Mormon Church spend 22 million dollars putting out and now
they feel deceived as well. The gays and nongays are not happy with
the fact that their rights were taken away, but they are even matter,
as are other Californians at the fact that the Mormon Church spent so
much money, and sent buses and buses and buses and made millions of
telephone calls to Californians from Utah area codes further pushing
an agenda that they had no business working for.

So the gays will soon get their rights restores in California and
eventually in the whole United States. What happened in California is
going to have repercussions in every state of this union and in every
church and every bigoted family. The day that 8 passed will go down
in history in years to come and everyone is going to say, we are very
sorry that this had to happen.

So you can call them moaners and people stamping the feet but again,
keep drinking the Kool-Aid because you don>t have a clue about what
you are talking about.

Janice

Doug Jones · Guest

On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:28:39 -0500, Marsha <mas@xeb.net> wrote:

[quote]Doug Jones wrote:
Well, here>s the really neat part. You (and Marsha) can come up with
all the excuses in the world, moan about the voters, and cry in your
beer, because no matter what you think or believe, there>s one
incontrovertable fact:

On January 20>th, 2009, the name of the President of the United
States will be Barack Hussein Obama.

We already knew that, Doug. We>re not one of those many uninformed
liberals. But maybe you>ve helped some people on this group, who didn>t
know.

Marsha
[/quote]
Yes, just like the "informed conservatives" who really think that Sara
Palin is qualified to be ... well, anything. The "informed
conservatives" who really believe that Wall Street executives,
brokers, and bankers really understand the derivatives and the amount
of risk. The "informed conservatives" who believe investing massive
drilling anywhere possible in th U.S. will make America independent
of foreign oil. The "informed conservatives" who who believed that
it was perfectly fine to borrow huge sums from China to finance a war
in a country that was not a direct threat to us.

All those uninformed conservatives like Christopher Buckley, Kenneth
Adelman, Colin Powell, and Susan Eisenhower just didn>t get the
received wisdom.

You>ve been moaning about Obama for a long time, and now you have to
come up with an excuse as to why 67 million people - almost 53 percent
of the voters decided that they had had quite enough of conservatives
and their policies. Considering the rapidly tanking economy, I think
it>s pretty clear that those policies can be considered a massive
failure.

Marsha · Guest

Doug Jones wrote:
[quote]You>ve been moaning about Obama for a long time, and now you have to
come up with an excuse as to why 67 million people - almost 53 percent
of the voters decided that they had had quite enough of conservatives
and their policies. Considering the rapidly tanking economy, I think
it>s pretty clear that those policies can be considered a massive
failure.
[/quote]
Actually, Doug, it>s called criticism. Moaning is what the left does.
They>re (YGY) like little children who stamp their collective feet
whenever they don>t get their way. Sort of Peter Pan-like if you will.
The gays in California who didn>t get their way are a good example.

You haven>t been paying attention to the title of this thread, either.
The reason Obama got elected is pretty clear, IMO - a hell of a lot of
very uninformed voters went to the polls on election day.

Marsha

Anne V. · Guest

Marsha, what makes you think we>re uninformed? Because our wishes and
opinions differ from yours? Believe me, there are a hell of a lot of us out
here who read every scrap of information available about all the candidates
before the election and made an informed decision when we pulled the lever.
I could say that all those who voted the Republican ticket were incredibly
gullible, allowing themselves to be hoodwinked by the lies and fear tactics
the party was spouting, but I>m going to credit you with more intelligence
than that. I>m going to assume that, as I said, your wishes and opinions
differ from mine. There were just more of us this time.

Anne

"Marsha" <mas@xeb.net> wrote in message news:ggnfel$rl$1@news.datemas.de...
[quote]You haven>t been paying attention to the title of this thread, either. The
reason Obama got elected is pretty clear, IMO - a hell of a lot of very
uninformed voters went to the polls on election day.

Marsha[/quote]

Samatha Hill -- take out · Guest

Gisele wrote:
[quote]Nice try, Doug. The questions were simple and any half-way intelligent
voter should have been able to give an intelligent response. A good
portion of liberals are simply not as well informed as conservatives,
which is the only reason Obama got elected.
[/quote]
Maybe. Many moons ago when I did telephone market research surveys,
practically all of the political ones were manipulative, which is why I
refuse to do any political surveys these days.

Samatha Hill -- take out · Guest

Marsha wrote:
[quote]From Zogby:

“Something, somehow, fell through the cracks." Nonetheless, Zogby stood
by the results of the poll themselves. “There is valuable information in
this poll,” he said.
[/quote]

Even if it>s only that people are sheep.

Marsha · Guest

janicemorningstar@gmail.com wrote:
[quote]So you can call them moaners and people stamping the feet but again,
keep drinking the Kool-Aid because you don>t have a clue about what
you are talking about.

Janice

[/quote]
You are certainly entitled to your opinion.

Marsha

Marsha · Guest

Anne V. wrote:
[quote]Marsha, what makes you think we>re uninformed? Because our wishes and
opinions differ from yours? Believe me, there are a hell of a lot of us out
here who read every scrap of information available about all the candidates
before the election and made an informed decision when we pulled the lever.
I could say that all those who voted the Republican ticket were incredibly
gullible, allowing themselves to be hoodwinked by the lies and fear tactics
the party was spouting, but I>m going to credit you with more intelligence
than that. I>m going to assume that, as I said, your wishes and opinions
differ from mine. There were just more of us this time.

Anne
[/quote]
You>re taking this personally, as if I>m calling you uninformed. You
cannot deny that there are a whole slew of uninformed voters out there,
somewhat due to the media, but also due to laziness. If you>re
informed, then it doesn>t apply to you.

Marsha

Marsha · Guest

Samatha Hill -- take out TRASH to reply wrote:
[quote]Marsha wrote:
From Zogby:

“Something, somehow, fell through the cracks." Nonetheless, Zogby
stood by the results of the poll themselves. “There is valuable
information in this poll,” he said.

Even if it>s only that people are sheep.
[/quote]
And there you have it, in a nutshell.

Marsha

Marsha · Guest

janicemorningstar@gmail.com wrote:
[quote]Again Marsha, you need to double up on the dose of Kool-Aid because
again you are speaking about more things that you know nothing about.
You try having your rights taken away.

Janice

[/quote]
You need to brush up, too. Marriage is not a "right". If you want to
include it as a "right", let>s also include a whole bunch of other crap,
like having a driver>s license, owning a business, membership in
anything. See where that goes?

Marsha

Chris · Guest

On Nov 26, 12:08ï¿½am, "Barbara Carlson" <bbcarl...@snappydsl.net>
wrote:
[quote]I could take issue with a lot of the statements, but anyone who follows
history knows that the Founding Fathers did NOT BELIEVE THE MASSES HAD THE
ABILITY TO VOTE INTELLIGENTLY. ï¿½That is why the Electoral System was
invoked. ï¿½They expected people to send intelligent representatives from
their district to select the President.

I wholly agree that many people are ill-informed about the candidates, BOTH
republicans and democrats. ï¿½I just don>t see how conservatives can support
candidates such as Reagan and Bush who ran up debt so. ï¿½I used to consider
myself a conservative, but I do not think the Republican Party is
conservative any longer. ï¿½They have given us more government and greater
debt. ï¿½I consider myself a fiscally conservative liberal. ï¿½But there is no
party to vote for with those qualifications.

What I do not understand is how someone with Bush>s background could ever
become President, especially the second term.

Barb C.

"Marsha" <m...@xeb.net> wrote in messagenews:ggflil$r05$1@news.datemas.de....
Typical voter for Obama (not does not a clue):

http://howobamagotelected.com/

This does NOT speak for all Obama voters (just a substantial portion,IMO),
so all of you other voters, do not take this personally. I think it>s
hilarious.

Marsha- Hide quoted text -

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[/quote]
So, lately, I>ve been trying to learn me some "truth" the best I could
gather.....what do you all think about those who say that the surplus
and other good "things" in the Clinton admin was due to 70% republican
legislature compared to the democratic majority in the Bush admin?

Chris · Guest

Also, in trying to determine who is telling the truth in this
"healthcare" situation -- some people say its the perfect answer and
great and others that it is the worst thing to ever potentially come
along...which is it?

I find comments like these made by a Canadian a bit disturbing and
more reliable than those who claim to be sharing facts......

"We have that in Canada. Sounds good on paper, but when people are
really sick?

Canadian government sends them to the states for treatment, pays their
apartment, food, car rental for months at a time for things like
prostate cancer treatment ( most popular one I know of) because we
cannot afford proper equipment with our free healthcare.

If the states did what Canada has done, then where would sick
Canadians go for help? You Americans would also go into healthcare
crisis, like us. Then what? We all fly to Europe for 'real'
treatments? Keep your healthcare please...we need it! lol"


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