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Marc Verhaegen · Guest

Savanna Fantast:
[quote]http://www.chinafrontier.com/images/sankalahari1a.jpg
Now don>t they look comfy?

What had the SF thought?? They possibly already live a few thousand years
in that milieu.
[/quote]
SF:
[quote]Ah, sorry, but their ancestors tools have been found out on the hot,
dry, savanna along side ostrich shells
for the last 2.6 million years.
[/quote]
??
1) Their ancestors?? Don>t talk nonsense.
2) At Gona, Ethiopia, 2.5 Ma-old stone tools were deposited in ³floodplain
environments, close to margins of channels that carried the volcanic cobbles
used as raw materials for tool manufacture² (Semaw et al. 1997: 333).
Nearby, in the Hata Member of the Bouri Formation, hominid fossils of a
similar age to the Gona deposits were discovered in sediments containing
sandstone with bivalve and gastropod shells ³deposited by fluvial processes
associated with floodplains along distributary channels close to a shallow
fluctuating lake² (de Heinzelin et al. 1999: 625). This Member also reveals
evidence of cut and percussion marks on bones of medium and large-sized
bovids, though stone tools have so far not been discovered.
3) Hominoid tool use is at least 15 Ma (splitting time of great apes): all
great apes use tools.

Marc Verhaegen · Guest

savanna fool thinks that because someshark eats some human, his savanna
nonsensebecomes true:
[quote]http://www.biarms.com/PhotoAlbums/sharkATTACK1.jpg
[/quote]

grow up, my little boy

Claudius Denk · Guest

On Jul 26, 9:23 am, "Makouli" <m...@work.com> wrote:
[quote]"Claudius Denk" <claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

news:d92d6af2-b9bf-4ea0-945d-09c5482108a0@p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 26, 8:09 am, "Makouli" <m...@work.com> wrote:

[snip]

http://users.ugent.be/~mvaneech/Fil/Verhaegen_Human_Evolution.html).

I think I>ll enshrine this one:

"...IOW, the apiths were evolving into
the ape direction." Marco 07/26/2008

Rest of the nonsense snipped.

Indeed.

[sig]

DIMMY! Fix your godammed attributions!
One more post like this and you can go play
with yourself.

* All we ever see from this AAT vs. Conventional Vagueness is constant
* snipping.

* Mikey>s dispute of AAT seems to amount to little more than
* disconcerted
* grumbings of somebody that lacks an alternative explanation.

* Don>t take this the wrong way, Mike, but if you aren>t arguing from
* the perspective of a viable alternative (to the question of how we
* evolved from apes) then why should anybody care?

What do you think, Dimmy? Are a>piths evolving
*toward* the apes?
[/quote]
Absurd.

How so? If so, what are they
[quote]evolving *from*? Is Marco on to something, or he
just the plain old ordinary fool we>ve come to know?
Can you produce something other than your trademark
juvenile rhetoric?

It>s spelled "feint".
[/quote]
Isn>t it true that you have no hypothesis at all? Be honest.

Claudius Denk · Guest

On Jul 26, 12:30 pm, "Rick Wagler" <taxid...@shaw.ca> wrote:
[quote]"Claudius Denk" <claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

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On Jul 25, 9:25 pm, "Rick Wagler" <taxid...@shaw.ca> wrote:

"Claudius Denk" <claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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On Jul 20, 7:18 pm, "Rick Wagler" <taxid...@shaw.ca> wrote:
"Claudius Denk" <claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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On Jul 20, 1:00 pm, "Rick Wagler" <taxid...@shaw.ca> wrote:
Oh that must explain why whenever you make the
claim that your ideas are gaining ground in PA you
put Tobias and Stringer at the top of the list.

Rick Wagler

All we ever see from this AAT vs. Conventional Vagueness is constant
snipping.

Rick>s dispute of AAT seems to amount to little more than disconcerted
grumbings of somebody that lacks an alternative explanation.

Don>t take this the wrong way, Rick, but if you aren>t arguing from
the perspective of a viable alternative (to the question of how we
evolved from apes) then why should anybody care that you have minor
grumblings with AAT notions?

* Right. I shouls adopt your approach. Just construct a
* 'hypothesis' all of my very own out of invented facts and
* foolish misconceptions.

Ha! You>re such a fucking lieing idiot. Name one, "Invented fact"
Go ahead, you lieing jackass. Name one!

* You regularly talk of 8 million year old a>piths despite
* there being no fossils older than about 4.3 million
* years.

How, exactly, does this involve "invented facts?" I>m not presenting
this as a fact, you idiot, I>m presenting it as an assertion/
conjecture that is based on interpretations of facts that confirm this
assertion/conjecture (fossil evidence, including evidence that is
indicative of climate and changes thereof) and on a lack of facts that
contradict this assertion/conjecture.
[/quote]
No response.

[quote]
Moreover, I>m not saying that the 8 mya assertion is set in stone. I
am saying, however, that the correct point in time will be at the
point in time that monsoon (sometimes called monsoon-forest habitat)
climate first emerged in east Africa. (My reasons for which are
obvious to any that has read my hypothesis.)

Isn>t it true that you have no fact-based dispute with any of this?
(Answer the question you evasive twit.)
[/quote]
No response.

[quote]
So particular types of organism are called forth
by climate change?
[/quote]
Yes, or, more specifically, as a result of the process of natural
selection.

[quote]Must have had fun with this
on sci.bio.evoluition.
[/quote]
?

[quote]
If I thought you knew what the word meant I>d
call you a metaphysician.
[/quote]
If you believe organisms do not evolve differently under different
environmental/climatic conditions then you are a metaphysician (and an
idiot).

Makouli · Guest

"Marc Verhaegen" <m_verhaegen@skynet.be> wrote in message
news:C4B0B24C.13351%m_verhaegen@skynet.be...
[quote]
http://www.chinafrontier.com/images/sankalahari1a.jpg
Now don>t they look comfy?

[blah, blah]

Probably completely wrong: Lucy likely had rel.short arms, eg, humerus c
24
cm cf.bonobo 29 cm, Hs 33 cm (human pygmy 26 cm).
"Lucy>s child" (OH-62, about 1 My later than Lucy!) OTOH had rel.much
longer
arms, as in chimps, IOW, the apiths were evolving into the ape direction
(as
everybody should know by now
http://users.ugent.be/~mvaneech/Fil/Verhaegen_Human_Evolution.html ).
[/quote]
I think I>ll enshrine this one:

"...IOW, the apiths were evolving into
the ape direction." Marco 07/26/2008

[quote]Rest of the nonsense snipped.
[/quote]
Indeed.

===============================
"Good politicians, like good scientists, draw conclusions
from facts. Bad politicians, like bad scientists, draw 'facts'
from conclusions." - Vox Verax

Makouli · Guest

"Claudius Denk" <claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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On Jul 26, 8:09 am, "Makouli" <m...@work.com> wrote:

[snip]

[quote]http://users.ugent.be/~mvaneech/Fil/Verhaegen_Human_Evolution.html).

I think I>ll enshrine this one:

"...IOW, the apiths were evolving into
the ape direction." Marco 07/26/2008

Rest of the nonsense snipped.

Indeed.
[/quote]
[sig]

DIMMY! Fix your godammed attributions!
One more post like this and you can go play
with yourself.

* All we ever see from this AAT vs. Conventional Vagueness is constant
* snipping.

* Mikey>s dispute of AAT seems to amount to little more than
* disconcerted
* grumbings of somebody that lacks an alternative explanation.

* Don>t take this the wrong way, Mike, but if you aren>t arguing from
* the perspective of a viable alternative (to the question of how we
* evolved from apes) then why should anybody care?

What do you think, Dimmy? Are a>piths evolving
*toward* the apes? How so? If so, what are they
evolving *from*? Is Marco on to something, or he
just the plain old ordinary fool we>ve come to know?
Can you produce something other than your trademark
juvenile rhetoric?

It>s spelled "feint".

====================================
"What I don>t understand is how you are
able to type out coherent sentences."
Dimmy --02/23/2008

Claudius Denk · Guest

On Jul 26, 1:00 pm, "Rick Wagler" <taxid...@shaw.ca> wrote:
[quote]"Claudius Denk" <claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

news:e113388c-5e41-432d-a27c-bbe540c431f5@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 26, 12:30 pm, "Rick Wagler" <taxid...@shaw.ca> wrote:

"Claudius Denk" <claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

news:bb3ded4d-cdf6-4ab0-af71-e4d29d7b484b@j1g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 25, 9:25 pm, "Rick Wagler" <taxid...@shaw.ca> wrote:

"Claudius Denk" <claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:a4211721-4356-4ebf-9820-96ecdaff0830@b2g2000prf.googlegroups.com....
On Jul 20, 7:18 pm, "Rick Wagler" <taxid...@shaw.ca> wrote:
"Claudius Denk" <claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:c83b9d20-444e-49d2-a258-c1f2d50204c1@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 20, 1:00 pm, "Rick Wagler" <taxid...@shaw.ca> wrote:
Oh that must explain why whenever you make the
claim that your ideas are gaining ground in PA you
put Tobias and Stringer at the top of the list.

Rick Wagler

All we ever see from this AAT vs. Conventional Vagueness is constant
snipping.

Rick>s dispute of AAT seems to amount to little more than disconcerted
grumbings of somebody that lacks an alternative explanation.

Don>t take this the wrong way, Rick, but if you aren>t arguing from
the perspective of a viable alternative (to the question of how we
evolved from apes) then why should anybody care that you have minor
grumblings with AAT notions?

* Right. I shouls adopt your approach. Just construct a
* 'hypothesis' all of my very own out of invented facts and
* foolish misconceptions.

Ha! You>re such a fucking lieing idiot. Name one, "Invented fact"
Go ahead, you lieing jackass. Name one!

* You regularly talk of 8 million year old a>piths despite
* there being no fossils older than about 4.3 million
* years.

How, exactly, does this involve "invented facts?" I>m not presenting
this as a fact, you idiot, I>m presenting it as an assertion/
conjecture that is based on interpretations of facts that confirm this
assertion/conjecture (fossil evidence, including evidence that is
indicative of climate and changes thereof) and on a lack of facts that
contradict this assertion/conjecture.

No response.
[/quote]
Still no response.

[quote]

Moreover, I>m not saying that the 8 mya assertion is set in stone. I
am saying, however, that the correct point in time will be at the
point in time that monsoon (sometimes called monsoon-forest habitat)
climate first emerged in east Africa. (My reasons for which are
obvious to any that has read my hypothesis.)

Isn>t it true that you have no fact-based dispute with any of this?
(Answer the question you evasive twit.)

No response.
[/quote]
Still no response.

[quote]

So particular types of organism are called forth
by climate change?

Yes, or, more specifically, as a result of the process of natural
selection.

Must have had fun with this
on sci.bio.evoluition.

?
[/quote]
No response.

[quote]

If I thought you knew what the word meant I>d
call you a metaphysician.

If you believe organisms do not evolve differently under different
environmental/climatic conditions then you are a metaphysician (and an
idiot).

* In extending the time range of a>piths by 3.5 mm years
* you are claiming much more than this.
[/quote]
Really? Like what? Or is that a secret?

[quote]* You have no factual
* basis for the claim,
[/quote]
You don>t consider fossil evidence to be factua?

[quote]* only a ridiculously over-the-top
* climate forcing model.
[/quote]
I dont' know what you mean by, "climate forcing." I>m talking about
natural selection. See my hypothesis for details.

You should have no trouble finding my hypothesis by doing a search.

[quote]* You might check out teleology and
* contingency as applied to evolutionary biology in the
* unlikely event you get around to figuring out what metaphysics
* is.
[/quote]
You>re an idiot. You appear to not have a clue what you are talking
about.

[quote]* You constantly claim that no one has a factual dispute
* with your 'hypothesis'.
[/quote]
Yep.

[quote]* A) This is blatantly untrue
[/quote]
Keep in mind the rest of us don>t have direct access to your
imagination.

[quote]* and B)
* people>s rejection of your woolly-minded braggadoccio
* is on a deeper level than facts.
[/quote]
Deeper level?

[quote]
* But enough of this yanking your chain. Make sure you
* take *all* your meds, not just some of them.

* Bye-Bye
[/quote]
You should a hobby that doesn>t involve complex things, like facts.

Rick Wagler · Guest

"Claudius Denk" <claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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On Jul 25, 9:25 pm, "Rick Wagler" <taxid...@shaw.ca> wrote:
[quote]"Claudius Denk" <claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:a4211721-4356-4ebf-9820-96ecdaff0830@b2g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 20, 7:18 pm, "Rick Wagler" <taxid...@shaw.ca> wrote:
"Claudius Denk" <claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:c83b9d20-444e-49d2-a258-c1f2d50204c1@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 20, 1:00 pm, "Rick Wagler" <taxid...@shaw.ca> wrote:
[/quote]

[quote]Oh that must explain why whenever you make the
claim that your ideas are gaining ground in PA you
put Tobias and Stringer at the top of the list.

Rick Wagler

All we ever see from this AAT vs. Conventional Vagueness is constant
snipping.

Rick>s dispute of AAT seems to amount to little more than disconcerted
grumbings of somebody that lacks an alternative explanation.

Don>t take this the wrong way, Rick, but if you aren>t arguing from
the perspective of a viable alternative (to the question of how we
evolved from apes) then why should anybody care that you have minor
grumblings with AAT notions?

* Right. I shouls adopt your approach. Just construct a
* 'hypothesis' all of my very own out of invented facts and
* foolish misconceptions.

Ha! You>re such a fucking lieing idiot. Name one, "Invented fact"
Go ahead, you lieing jackass. Name one!

* You regularly talk of 8 million year old a>piths despite
* there being no fossils older than about 4.3 million
* years.
[/quote]
How, exactly, does this involve "invented facts?" I>m not presenting
this as a fact, you idiot, I>m presenting it as an assertion/
conjecture that is based on interpretations of facts that confirm this
assertion/conjecture (fossil evidence, including evidence that is
indicative of climate and changes thereof) and on a lack of facts that
contradict this assertion/conjecture.

Moreover, I>m not saying that the 8 mya assertion is set in stone. I
am saying, however, that the correct point in time will be at the
point in time that monsoon (sometimes called monsoon-forest habitat)
climate first emerged in east Africa. (My reasons for which are
obvious to any that has read my hypothesis.)

Isn>t it true that you have no fact-based dispute with any of this?
(Answer the question you evasive twit.)

So particular types of organism are called forth
by climate change? Must have had fun with this
on sci.bio.evoluition.

If I thought you knew what the word meant I>d
call you a metaphysician.

Rick Wagler

Rick Wagler · Guest

"Claudius Denk" <claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:e113388c-5e41-432d-a27c-bbe540c431f5@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 26, 12:30 pm, "Rick Wagler" <taxid...@shaw.ca> wrote:
[quote]"Claudius Denk" <claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

news:bb3ded4d-cdf6-4ab0-af71-e4d29d7b484b@j1g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 25, 9:25 pm, "Rick Wagler" <taxid...@shaw.ca> wrote:

"Claudius Denk" <claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:a4211721-4356-4ebf-9820-96ecdaff0830@b2g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 20, 7:18 pm, "Rick Wagler" <taxid...@shaw.ca> wrote:
"Claudius Denk" <claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:c83b9d20-444e-49d2-a258-c1f2d50204c1@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 20, 1:00 pm, "Rick Wagler" <taxid...@shaw.ca> wrote:
Oh that must explain why whenever you make the
claim that your ideas are gaining ground in PA you
put Tobias and Stringer at the top of the list.

Rick Wagler

All we ever see from this AAT vs. Conventional Vagueness is constant
snipping.

Rick>s dispute of AAT seems to amount to little more than disconcerted
grumbings of somebody that lacks an alternative explanation.

Don>t take this the wrong way, Rick, but if you aren>t arguing from
the perspective of a viable alternative (to the question of how we
evolved from apes) then why should anybody care that you have minor
grumblings with AAT notions?

* Right. I shouls adopt your approach. Just construct a
* 'hypothesis' all of my very own out of invented facts and
* foolish misconceptions.

Ha! You>re such a fucking lieing idiot. Name one, "Invented fact"
Go ahead, you lieing jackass. Name one!

* You regularly talk of 8 million year old a>piths despite
* there being no fossils older than about 4.3 million
* years.

How, exactly, does this involve "invented facts?" I>m not presenting
this as a fact, you idiot, I>m presenting it as an assertion/
conjecture that is based on interpretations of facts that confirm this
assertion/conjecture (fossil evidence, including evidence that is
indicative of climate and changes thereof) and on a lack of facts that
contradict this assertion/conjecture.
[/quote]
No response.

[quote]
Moreover, I>m not saying that the 8 mya assertion is set in stone. I
am saying, however, that the correct point in time will be at the
point in time that monsoon (sometimes called monsoon-forest habitat)
climate first emerged in east Africa. (My reasons for which are
obvious to any that has read my hypothesis.)

Isn>t it true that you have no fact-based dispute with any of this?
(Answer the question you evasive twit.)
[/quote]
No response.

[quote]
So particular types of organism are called forth
by climate change?
[/quote]
Yes, or, more specifically, as a result of the process of natural
selection.

[quote]Must have had fun with this
on sci.bio.evoluition.
[/quote]
?

[quote]
If I thought you knew what the word meant I>d
call you a metaphysician.
[/quote]
If you believe organisms do not evolve differently under different
environmental/climatic conditions then you are a metaphysician (and an
idiot).

* In extending the time range of a>piths by 3.5 mm years
* you are claiming much more than this. You have no factual
* basis for the claim, only a ridiculously over-the-top
* climate forcing model. You might check out teleology and
* contingency as applied to evolutionary biology in the
* unlikely event you get around to figuring out what metaphysics
* is. You constantly claim that no one has a factual dispute
* with your 'hypothesis'. A) This is blatantly untrue and B)
* people>s rejection of your woolly-minded braggadoccio
* is on a deeper level than facts.

* But enough of this yanking your chain. Make sure you
* take *all* your meds, not just some of them.

* Bye-Bye
* Rick Wagler

Makouli · Guest

"Claudius Denk" <claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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On Jul 26, 9:23 am, "Makouli" <m...@work.com> wrote:
[fluff]

[quote]Isn>t it true that you have no hypothesis at all? Be honest.
[/quote]
Projection.

=======================================
"Your hypothesis can>t be disputed/refuted
because nobody quite knows what it is."
Dimmy --01/17/08

Marc Verhaegen · Guest

SF:
[quote]http://www.chinafrontier.com/images/sankalahari1a.jpg
Now don>t they look comfy?

What had the SF thought?? They possibly already live a few thousand years
in that milieu.
[/quote]
SF:
[quote]Ah, sorry, but their ancestors tools have been found out on the hot,
dry, savanna along side ostrich shells
for the last 2.6 million years.

??
1) Their ancestors?? Don>t talk nonsense.
[/quote]
SF:
[quote]Who put tools on the savanna, wetloon, lions????
[/quote]
My little boy, why on earth do you believe that the hominids that left
waterside tools there were our ancestors?? Grow up, listen to what people
say & think a little bit.

Marc Verhaegen · Guest

[quote]savanna fool thinks that because some shark eats some human, his savanna
nonsense becomes true:

http://www.biarms.com/PhotoAlbums/sharkATTACK1.jpg

grow up, my little boy

Post some evidence
[/quote]
Try to read, my little boy.
The comparative evidence is about our ancestors, but of course the savanna
fantasts neglect this information.
The fossil & archeol.evidence is about the fossils & the tools, of which the
exact relationship to our ancestors still has to be established.

[quote]pervert. Tools are on the savanna @ 2.6 mya.
Nothing is on the raised beaches until a million years later.
[/quote]
What had you thought, my little boy??
Inform a bit before opening your big mouth:

http://users.ugent.be/%7Emvaneech/Verhaegen et al. 2007. Econiche of
Homo.pdf
http://users.ugent.be/%7Emvaneech/Verhaegen & Munro. New directions in
palaeoanthropology.pdf
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AAT

AAT: Shore Adaptations in the genus Homo
-Human Evolution based on Comparative anatomy/physiology
-Littoral Diaspora after Homo & Pan split ~5 Ma
-Comparative & Fossil information on ape & human evolution

AAT:
-Aquatic Ape Theory of human evolution (original term E.Morgan 1982)
-Aquarboreal Apes Theory of Mio-Pliocene apes (aqua=water arbor=tree)
-Amphibious Ancestors Theory of Plio-Pleistocene Homo (AAT strict sense)

AAT s.s. is based on human biology compared to chimps & living animals
(behavior/anatomy/physiology/DNA):
Waterside food collection (fruits/(coco)nuts, turtle/bird eggs,
shell/crayfish, water(side)plants, drowned bovids, stranded whales...)
explains unique Homo traits (not in apes/australopiths) better than forest
or plains dwelling:
-large brain (frequent in water(side) mammals),
-slow-diving skills (record >100 metres, typical for divers for sessile
foods),
-voluntary breath control (record >10 minutes!), preadaptation for speech),
-small mouth & biting muscles,
-tongue bone descent,
-projecting nose (typical of semi-aquatics),
-poor sense of smell (disproves savanna dwelling),
-handiness/tools (thick enamel, durophagy, frequent in waterside mammals),
-late puberty & long life span (oppostie of savanna mammals),
-alined head-spine-legs (typical of fequent swimming),
-flat feet (disproves savanna dwelling),
-fur loss (frequent in tropical (semi)aquatics),
-fatness (typical of species that spend a lot oftime in water),
-reduced climbing,
-profuse sweating (requires lots of water & sodum, both scarce on savannas),
-high needs of water (drinking, low renal concentration),
-high needs of sodium,
-high needs of iodine (coast),
-poly-unsaturated fatty acids (eg, DHA), in abundance in aquatic foods,
-etc.
All these are present in different combinations in (semi)aquatic animals but
strikingly absent in, eg, savanna mammals.

After Homo & Pan split ~64 Ma, Homo populations spread along seashores &
from there inland along lakes/rivers in savannas & elsewhere, eg, crossed 18
km sea to Flores 0.8 Ma: tools/fossils 2.5-0.1 Ma are found near Rift valley
lakes & even (sea level fluctuations hindered fossilisation) Indian Ocean &
African coasts, often amid seashells: Mojokerto, Dungo V Baia Farta, Terra
Amata, Table Bay, Eritrea...

M.Westenhöfer 1942 Der Eigenweg des Menschen. Mannstaede
A.Hardy 1960 Was Man more aquatic in the past? NS 7:624
M.Roede...1991 The Aquatic Ape: Fact or Fiction? Souvenir
E.Morgan 1997 The Aquatic Ape Hypothesis. Souvenir
M.Verhaegen...2002 Aquarboreal ancestors? TREE 17:212
S.Cunnane 2005 Survival of the Fattest. World Scientific
P.Tobias http://allserv.rug.ac.be/~mvaneech/outthere.htm
Symposium 1999 Water & Human Evolution
http://allserv.rug.ac.be/~mvaneech/Symposium.html
http://allserv.rug.ac.be/~mvaneech/Verhaegen.html

nickname · Guest

On Jul 26, 5:14 am, Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Jul 26, 1:51 am, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae...@skynet.be> wrote:

http://www.chinafrontier.com/images/sankalahari1a.jpg
Now don>t they look comfy?
Yep, next to their water bag. Just like at the beach!

Yes.
[/quote]
How many savanna animals carry water bags or ostrich shells? None.

[quote]Yes.http://www.biarms.com/PhotoAlbums/sharkATTACK1.jpg
[/quote]
irrelevant of course, must be from hahahaleewood

[quote]Yes.http://tinyurl.com/y44rnt

Yes.
Davidson, I. & Solomon, S. (1990) Was OH 27 the victim of a crocodile
attack?. In Solomon, S., Davidson, I. & Watson, D. (eds) Problem
Solving in Taphonomy: Archaeological & Palaeontological Studies from
Europe, Africa & Oceania. Tempus 2. Anthropology Museum, University
of
Queensland, St. Lucia, Queensland. 198 - 206.

Now you finally got it, good wetloon!

Then some Savanna ace quoted this:

"The Turkana boy tells us that early H. erectus, besides being a
tall biped,

Tall?? Long legs, yes,

Yes, ever see a pygmy win the marathon???
[/quote]
A pygmy would probably win a marathon in the Congo.

[quote]:-D

These people are

Correct.

: never seen a windhound vs a pibul??
Cursorials are lightly-built!

Never seen of the race between the hare and the tortoise?
Geez those wetloons are stupid.[/quote]

nickname · Guest

On Jul 26, 5:23 am, Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Jul 26, 2:43 am, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae...@skynet.be> wrote:

Some SF:

http://www.chinafrontier.com/images/sankalahari1a.jpg
Now don>t they look comfy?

What had the SF thought?? They possilby already live a few thousand years
adapted in that milieu.

Ah, sorry, but their ancestors tools have been found out on the hot,
dry, savanna along side ostrich shells
for the last 2.6 million years.

"The Turkana boy tells us that early H.erectus, besides being a
tall biped,

Tall?? Turkana Boy had platyspondyly: it>s trunk was perhaps only 2/3 of
ours.

Yes, what a runner he must have been. Thanks for pointing that out.

Did you know that we can run twice as fast as a croc on the beach, but
can only swim
a half as fast as a croc in the water?
[/quote]
Ever see a croc jab a spear or throw a stone?

Claudius Denk · Guest

On Jul 26, 5:23 am, Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

[quote]Hominid ancestors tools have been found out on the hot,
dry, savanna along side ostrich shells
for the last 2.6 million years.
[/quote]
Simply not true. All hominid fossils have been found at locations
that were considerably more treed and well watered at the time they
were lain down at these locations.

Facts are not optional. You need to deal with the facts and stop
misrepresenting the evidence to advance your agenda.

[quote]Tall?? Turkana Boy had platyspondyly: it>s trunk was perhaps only 2/3 of
ours.

Yes, what a runner he must have been. Thanks for pointing that out.

Did you know that we can run twice as fast as a croc on the beach,
but can only swim a half as fast as a croc in the water?
[/quote]
Yet you>d have us ignore the fact that we run about 1/3 the speed of
lion and hyena.


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