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Duan Vukoti
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 Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:06 am Post subject: Guitar teetering |
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English teetering (ON titra, Ger. zittern) sounds almost the same as
Serbian titranje (teetering, vibration, oscillation, seesaw,
tottering).
Is guitar (Gr. κιθάρα, Sp. guittara) related to teeter?
In Serbian the history of the word titranje is completely transparent:
it comes from the Hor-Gon basis, which primal meaning is "circle";
i.e. krug (circle) => kruženje (circulation; kretanje movement) =>
građenje (build; Slav. grad/gorad city; in fact encircling, encircled
area, the same logic as in case of Eng. enclosure).
Serbian non rad (work) is derived from the verb graditi (build) and
u(h)raditi (from ugraditi built in). On the other hand, Serbian
ugraditi originated from the gon- prefixed Hor-Gon basis; i.e. from
Gon-Hor-Gon. What are the main acts of applying force in order to
build a habitat? First, is it not striking/hitting (Serb. udaranje;
Slovak udrieť), pushing (Serb. guranje) and driving (Serb. teranje)?
All these tree words (udaranje, guranje, teranje) have the same parent
- the Serbian word ugradnja (construction; verb. ugraditi to build in,
embed). If we take a more careful look at the English word
construction, we can see the similar develpment, beginning with the ur-
basis Gon-Hor-Gon (or rather Gon-Xur-Gon; con-stru-ing, stri-king;
Serb. s-krojiti to tailor, mold; u-strojiti to build, to construct).
Now we are coming to the main point. Guitar is a stringed instrument
and in order to produce the tones one has to strike (Serb. udarati)
its strings (Serb. strune). The Serbian word strune (strings) is
related to the above-mentioned strojenje (constructing; from skrojenje/
skrajanje molding, tailoring, carpentering) and other Serbian words as
striganje (shearing, fleecing http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/7217/shear-1.jpg),
škare (scissors), stroj (machine). Striking (Serb. udar) always
causes teetering (Serb. titranje) as well as tearing (Serb. trganje)
and tremble (Serb. drmanje, trema).
Finally, there is the Serbian word dodir (touch), which has obviously
been understood as a small udar (hit, strike, beat; udaranje <hudaranje <= hu(n)hara-gne <= Gon-Hor-Gon basis). The Serbian syntagm
"udarati u strune" (to strike the strings) has the same meaning as the
word "play" (Serb. svirati).
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Duan Vukoti
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: Guitar teetering |
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On Jul 28, 2:28 pm, Harlan Messinger
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[quote]Dušan Vukotić wrote:
English teetering (ON titra, Ger. zittern) sounds almost the same as
Serbian titranje (teetering, vibration, oscillation, seesaw,
tottering).
Is guitar (Gr. κιθάρα, Sp. guittara) related to teeter?
In Serbian the history of the word titranje is completely transparent:
it comes from the Hor-Gon basis,
It can>t be transparent if you made it up, it isn>t obvious and
contradicts the available evidence, and haven>t proven it or explained
the contradictions.
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And what are the "available evidences" you are talking about; where
are they? Would you like to tell me that teeter, Lat. cithara (lyre,
lute, guitar), Ger. zittern and Serbian titrati/titranje (teeter) are
unrelated; or maybe you know that the transparency of the historical
development of the Serbian word "titrati" (which is explained in my
previous message) is not correct?
Everything you say is right (self-evident) and everything I say is
wrong (self-(un)evident). The problem is that your "self-evident"
couldn>t be taken for granted by any human being who used to engage
his own brain cells, before bringing some crucial or "self-evident"
conclusions.
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Harlan Messinger
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: Guitar teetering |
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Dušan Vukotić wrote:
[quote]English teetering (ON titra, Ger. zittern) sounds almost the same as
Serbian titranje (teetering, vibration, oscillation, seesaw,
tottering).
Is guitar (Gr. κιθάρα, Sp. guittara) related to teeter?
In Serbian the history of the word titranje is completely transparent:
it comes from the Hor-Gon basis,
[/quote]
It can>t be transparent if you made it up, it isn>t obvious and
contradicts the available evidence, and haven>t proven it or explained
the contradictions. |
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Duan Vukoti
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: Guitar teetering |
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On Jul 28, 6:05 pm, Harlan Messinger
<hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
[quote]Dušan Vukotić wrote:
On Jul 28, 2:28 pm, Harlan Messinger
hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
English teetering (ON titra, Ger. zittern) sounds almost the same as
Serbian titranje (teetering, vibration, oscillation, seesaw,
tottering).
Is guitar (Gr. κιθάρα, Sp. guittara) related to teeter?
In Serbian the history of the word titranje is completely transparent:
it comes from the Hor-Gon basis,
It can>t be transparent if you made it up, it isn>t obvious and
contradicts the available evidence, and haven>t proven it or explained
the contradictions.
And what are the "available evidences" you are talking about; where
are they?
The entirety of existing linguistic research and analysis, as I keep
pointing out to you.-
[/quote]
You are just parroting the same mantra... as if you ever were direct
or concrete with your "counter-arguments".
The fact is, you have never pointed out anything.
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António Marques
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: Guitar teetering |
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Harlan Messinger wrote:
[quote]Dušan Vukotić wrote:
English teetering (ON titra, Ger. zittern) sounds almost the same as
Serbian titranje (teetering, vibration, oscillation, seesaw,
tottering).
Is guitar (Gr. κιθάρα, Sp. guittara) related to teeter?
In Serbian the history of the word titranje is completely transparent:
it comes from the Hor-Gon basis,
It can>t be transparent if you made it up, it isn>t obvious and
contradicts the available evidence, and haven>t proven it or explained
the contradictions.
[/quote]
It>s 'transparent' as in 'invisible'.
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Harlan Messinger
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: Guitar teetering |
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Dušan Vukotić wrote:
[quote]On Jul 28, 2:28 pm, Harlan Messinger
hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
English teetering (ON titra, Ger. zittern) sounds almost the same as
Serbian titranje (teetering, vibration, oscillation, seesaw,
tottering).
Is guitar (Gr. κιθάρα, Sp. guittara) related to teeter?
In Serbian the history of the word titranje is completely transparent:
it comes from the Hor-Gon basis,
It can>t be transparent if you made it up, it isn>t obvious and
contradicts the available evidence, and haven>t proven it or explained
the contradictions.
And what are the "available evidences" you are talking about; where
are they?
[/quote]
The entirety of existing linguistic research and analysis, as I keep
pointing out to you. |
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Harlan Messinger
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:33 pm Post subject: Re: Guitar teetering |
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Dušan Vukotić wrote:
[quote]On Jul 28, 6:05 pm, Harlan Messinger
hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
On Jul 28, 2:28 pm, Harlan Messinger
hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
English teetering (ON titra, Ger. zittern) sounds almost the same as
Serbian titranje (teetering, vibration, oscillation, seesaw,
tottering).
Is guitar (Gr. κιθάρα, Sp. guittara) related to teeter?
In Serbian the history of the word titranje is completely transparent:
it comes from the Hor-Gon basis,
It can>t be transparent if you made it up, it isn>t obvious and
contradicts the available evidence, and haven>t proven it or explained
the contradictions.
And what are the "available evidences" you are talking about; where
are they?
The entirety of existing linguistic research and analysis, as I keep
pointing out to you.-
You are just parroting the same mantra
[/quote]
The answer doesn>t change just because you keep ignoring it. |
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Duan Vukoti
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:30 am Post subject: Re: Guitar teetering |
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On Jul 28, 3:22 pm, António Marques <m...@sapo.pt> wrote:
[quote]Harlan Messinger wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
English teetering (ON titra, Ger. zittern) sounds almost the same as
Serbian titranje (teetering, vibration, oscillation, seesaw,
tottering).
Is guitar (Gr. κιθάρα, Sp. guittara) related to teeter?
In Serbian the history of the word titranje is completely transparent:
it comes from the Hor-Gon basis,
It can>t be transparent if you made it up, it isn>t obvious and
contradicts the available evidence, and haven>t proven it or explained
the contradictions.
It>s 'transparent' as in 'invisible'.
--
António Marques
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** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
[/quote]
Udar (strike), dodir (touch), trenje (friction), trganje (tearing),
trzanje (twitching), tresenje (shaking), teranje (drivng, chasing),
titranje, and a great number of other words are the clear-cut
derivatives from the Hor-Gon basis (from kruženje circulation =>
kretanje movement/motion; i.e guranje pushing);
Of course, above-mentioned down-to-the-root transpancy is invisible
for those people who are unfamiliar with some of the Slavic languages.
Unfortunately, I cannot help someone who is lazy to learn, but,
nevertheless, is likely to present himself as an intelligent and
broadly educated person.
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Duan Vukoti
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: Guitar teetering |
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On Jul 30, 2:04 pm, Harlan Messinger
<hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
[quote]Dušan Vukotić wrote:
On Jul 28, 3:22 pm, António Marques <m...@sapo.pt> wrote:
Harlan Messinger wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
English teetering (ON titra, Ger. zittern) sounds almost the same as
Serbian titranje (teetering, vibration, oscillation, seesaw,
tottering).
Is guitar (Gr. κιθάρα, Sp. guittara) related to teeter?
In Serbian the history of the word titranje is completely transparent:
it comes from the Hor-Gon basis,
It can>t be transparent if you made it up, it isn>t obvious and
contradicts the available evidence, and haven>t proven it or explained
the contradictions.
It>s 'transparent' as in 'invisible'.
--
António Marques
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This signature does not include a prefab parting phrase
** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
Udar (strike), dodir (touch), trenje (friction), trganje (tearing),
trzanje (twitching), tresenje (shaking), teranje (drivng, chasing),
titranje, and a great number of other words are the clear-cut
derivatives from the Hor-Gon basis
Again: since Hor-Gon basis is something only you believe in, it can>t be
"clear-cut" for anybody else that any particular word is derived from
it. See, you never fail to fall back on your misconception that if you
believe something strongly in your own fantasy, then it becomes clear to
everyone else.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
[/quote]
How many times I must repeat that the main meaning of Hor-Gon is
"circle" (Slavic krug; Russ. круг; Cz. kruh; Gr. krikos; Lat. circus).
If I invented Hor-Gon it is pretty sure that I couldn>t invent words
as circle, circulation, cruising, run etc.
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Harlan Messinger
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: Guitar teetering |
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Dušan Vukotić wrote:
[quote]On Jul 28, 3:22 pm, António Marques <m...@sapo.pt> wrote:
Harlan Messinger wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
English teetering (ON titra, Ger. zittern) sounds almost the same as
Serbian titranje (teetering, vibration, oscillation, seesaw,
tottering).
Is guitar (Gr. κιθάρα, Sp. guittara) related to teeter?
In Serbian the history of the word titranje is completely transparent:
it comes from the Hor-Gon basis,
It can>t be transparent if you made it up, it isn>t obvious and
contradicts the available evidence, and haven>t proven it or explained
the contradictions.
It>s 'transparent' as in 'invisible'.
--
António Marques
--
This signature does not include a prefab parting phrase
** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
Udar (strike), dodir (touch), trenje (friction), trganje (tearing),
trzanje (twitching), tresenje (shaking), teranje (drivng, chasing),
titranje, and a great number of other words are the clear-cut
derivatives from the Hor-Gon basis
[/quote]
Again: since Hor-Gon basis is something only you believe in, it can>t be
"clear-cut" for anybody else that any particular word is derived from
it. See, you never fail to fall back on your misconception that if you
believe something strongly in your own fantasy, then it becomes clear to
everyone else. |
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Harlan Messinger
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: Guitar teetering |
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Dušan Vukotić wrote:
[quote]On Jul 30, 2:04 pm, Harlan Messinger
hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
On Jul 28, 3:22 pm, António Marques <m...@sapo.pt> wrote:
Harlan Messinger wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
English teetering (ON titra, Ger. zittern) sounds almost the same as
Serbian titranje (teetering, vibration, oscillation, seesaw,
tottering).
Is guitar (Gr. κιθάρα, Sp. guittara) related to teeter?
In Serbian the history of the word titranje is completely transparent:
it comes from the Hor-Gon basis,
It can>t be transparent if you made it up, it isn>t obvious and
contradicts the available evidence, and haven>t proven it or explained
the contradictions.
It>s 'transparent' as in 'invisible'.
--
António Marques
--
This signature does not include a prefab parting phrase
** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
Udar (strike), dodir (touch), trenje (friction), trganje (tearing),
trzanje (twitching), tresenje (shaking), teranje (drivng, chasing),
titranje, and a great number of other words are the clear-cut
derivatives from the Hor-Gon basis
Again: since Hor-Gon basis is something only you believe in, it can>t be
"clear-cut" for anybody else that any particular word is derived from
it. See, you never fail to fall back on your misconception that if you
believe something strongly in your own fantasy, then it becomes clear to
everyone else.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
How many times I must repeat that the main meaning of Hor-Gon is
"circle"
[/quote]
You can repeat it 50 billion times and it will remain an unsupported claim.
[quote](Slavic krug; Russ. круг; Cz. kruh; Gr. krikos; Lat. circus).
If I invented Hor-Gon it is pretty sure that I couldn>t invent words
as circle, circulation, cruising, run etc.
[/quote]
What do you mean, "if" you invented it? It>s entirely your creation. |
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Duan Vukoti
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:56 am Post subject: Re: Guitar teetering |
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On Jul 30, 5:23 pm, Harlan Messinger
<hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
[quote]Dušan Vukotić wrote:
On Jul 30, 2:04 pm, Harlan Messinger
hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
On Jul 28, 3:22 pm, António Marques <m...@sapo.pt> wrote:
Harlan Messinger wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
English teetering (ON titra, Ger. zittern) sounds almost the same as
Serbian titranje (teetering, vibration, oscillation, seesaw,
tottering).
Is guitar (Gr. κιθάρα, Sp. guittara) related to teeter?
In Serbian the history of the word titranje is completely transparent:
it comes from the Hor-Gon basis,
It can>t be transparent if you made it up, it isn>t obvious and
contradicts the available evidence, and haven>t proven it or explained
the contradictions.
It>s 'transparent' as in 'invisible'.
--
António Marques
--
This signature does not include a prefab parting phrase
** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
Udar (strike), dodir (touch), trenje (friction), trganje (tearing),
trzanje (twitching), tresenje (shaking), teranje (drivng, chasing),
titranje, and a great number of other words are the clear-cut
derivatives from the Hor-Gon basis
Again: since Hor-Gon basis is something only you believe in, it can>t be
"clear-cut" for anybody else that any particular word is derived from
it. See, you never fail to fall back on your misconception that if you
believe something strongly in your own fantasy, then it becomes clear to
everyone else.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
How many times I must repeat that the main meaning of Hor-Gon is
"circle"
You can repeat it 50 billion times and it will remain an unsupported claim.
(Slavic krug; Russ. круг; Cz. kruh; Gr. krikos; Lat.. circus).
If I invented Hor-Gon it is pretty sure that I couldn>t invent words
as circle, circulation, cruising, run etc.
What do you mean, "if" you invented it? It>s entirely your creation.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
[/quote]
I>m not an inventor and I make nothing up. I>ve just discovered the
main principles on how the human speech has been developing, through
the milleniums, out of the three basic (primordial) syllables - Xur-
Bel-Gon.
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Harlan Messinger
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Guitar teetering |
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Dušan Vukotić wrote:
[quote]On Jul 30, 5:23 pm, Harlan Messinger
hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
On Jul 30, 2:04 pm, Harlan Messinger
hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
On Jul 28, 3:22 pm, António Marques <m...@sapo.pt> wrote:
Harlan Messinger wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
English teetering (ON titra, Ger. zittern) sounds almost the same as
Serbian titranje (teetering, vibration, oscillation, seesaw,
tottering).
Is guitar (Gr. κιθάρα, Sp. guittara) related to teeter?
In Serbian the history of the word titranje is completely transparent:
it comes from the Hor-Gon basis,
It can>t be transparent if you made it up, it isn>t obvious and
contradicts the available evidence, and haven>t proven it or explained
the contradictions.
It>s 'transparent' as in 'invisible'.
--
António Marques
--
This signature does not include a prefab parting phrase
** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
Udar (strike), dodir (touch), trenje (friction), trganje (tearing),
trzanje (twitching), tresenje (shaking), teranje (drivng, chasing),
titranje, and a great number of other words are the clear-cut
derivatives from the Hor-Gon basis
Again: since Hor-Gon basis is something only you believe in, it can>t be
"clear-cut" for anybody else that any particular word is derived from
it. See, you never fail to fall back on your misconception that if you
believe something strongly in your own fantasy, then it becomes clear to
everyone else.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
How many times I must repeat that the main meaning of Hor-Gon is
"circle"
You can repeat it 50 billion times and it will remain an unsupported claim.
(Slavic krug; Russ. круг; Cz. kruh; Gr. krikos; Lat. circus).
If I invented Hor-Gon it is pretty sure that I couldn>t invent words
as circle, circulation, cruising, run etc.
What do you mean, "if" you invented it? It>s entirely your creation.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I>m not an inventor and I make nothing up. I>ve just discovered the
main principles
[/quote]
"Discovered" means found by applying rigorous reasoning to observed
facts. If you substitute flights of fancy and far-fetched impressions
for rigorous reasoning (such as when you imagine that you can assume
sound X in one word in language A is related to sound Y in one word in
language B, justified solely because there is an X-Y connection between
languages C and D), when you contrive "facts" to fit the theory (such as
when you take two words some pretext for relating their meanings when
there isn>t any real connection) instead of molding the theory to fit
the facts, the result isn>t a discovery, it>s an invention.
[quote]on how the human speech has been developing, through
the milleniums, out of the three basic (primordial) syllables - Xur-
Bel-Gon.[/quote] |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:54 am Post subject: Re: Guitar teetering |
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On Jul 31, 2:31 pm, Harlan Messinger
<hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
[quote]Dušan Vukotić wrote:
On Jul 30, 5:23 pm, Harlan Messinger
hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
On Jul 30, 2:04 pm, Harlan Messinger
hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
On Jul 28, 3:22 pm, António Marques <m...@sapo.pt> wrote:
Harlan Messinger wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
English teetering (ON titra, Ger. zittern) sounds almost the same as
Serbian titranje (teetering, vibration, oscillation, seesaw,
tottering).
Is guitar (Gr. κιθάρα, Sp. guittara) related to teeter?
In Serbian the history of the word titranje is completely transparent:
it comes from the Hor-Gon basis,
It can>t be transparent if you made it up, it isn>t obvious and
contradicts the available evidence, and haven>t proven it or explained
the contradictions.
It>s 'transparent' as in 'invisible'.
--
António Marques
--
This signature does not include a prefab parting phrase
** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
Udar (strike), dodir (touch), trenje (friction), trganje (tearing),
trzanje (twitching), tresenje (shaking), teranje (drivng, chasing),
titranje, and a great number of other words are the clear-cut
derivatives from the Hor-Gon basis
Again: since Hor-Gon basis is something only you believe in, it can>t be
"clear-cut" for anybody else that any particular word is derived from
it. See, you never fail to fall back on your misconception that if you
believe something strongly in your own fantasy, then it becomes clear to
everyone else.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
How many times I must repeat that the main meaning of Hor-Gon is
"circle"
You can repeat it 50 billion times and it will remain an unsupported claim.
(Slavic krug; Russ. круг; Cz. kruh; Gr. krikos; Lat. circus).
If I invented Hor-Gon it is pretty sure that I couldn>t invent words
as circle, circulation, cruising, run etc.
What do you mean, "if" you invented it? It>s entirely your creation.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I>m not an inventor and I make nothing up. I>ve just discovered the
main principles
"Discovered" means found by applying rigorous reasoning to observed
facts. If you substitute flights of fancy and far-fetched impressions
for rigorous reasoning (such as when you imagine that you can assume
sound X in one word in language A is related to sound Y in one word in
language B, justified solely because there is an X-Y connection between
languages C and D), when you contrive "facts" to fit the theory (such as
when you take two words some pretext for relating their meanings when
there isn>t any real connection) instead of molding the theory to fit
the facts, the result isn>t a discovery, it>s an invention.
[/quote]
The modern linguistics sticks too much to the sound laws and regular
phonetic changes in order to prove the relatedness among different
words. It became a kind of "scientific" lunacy, because there are rare
(if any at all) phonetic laws that could be applied strictly, without
a great number of exceptions. For instance, you cannot take a
reduction (syncope) of the English word husband or Serbian gospodin
(gentleman, lord; Lat. hospita) to guest and host (Srb. gost guest,
gazda host)as a general rule, simply because there is no enough
similar examples. Finally, if you need phonetic rules to understand
that host/guest comes from hospit, then something is terrible wrong
with your reasoning.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:07 am Post subject: Re: Guitar teetering |
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Dušan Vukotić wrote:
[quote]On Jul 31, 2:31 pm, Harlan Messinger
hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
On Jul 30, 5:23 pm, Harlan Messinger
hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
On Jul 30, 2:04 pm, Harlan Messinger
hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
On Jul 28, 3:22 pm, António Marques <m...@sapo.pt> wrote:
Harlan Messinger wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
English teetering (ON titra, Ger. zittern) sounds almost the same as
Serbian titranje (teetering, vibration, oscillation, seesaw,
tottering).
Is guitar (Gr. κιθάρα, Sp. guittara) related to teeter?
In Serbian the history of the word titranje is completely transparent:
it comes from the Hor-Gon basis,
It can>t be transparent if you made it up, it isn>t obvious and
contradicts the available evidence, and haven>t proven it or explained
the contradictions.
It>s 'transparent' as in 'invisible'.
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Udar (strike), dodir (touch), trenje (friction), trganje (tearing),
trzanje (twitching), tresenje (shaking), teranje (drivng, chasing),
titranje, and a great number of other words are the clear-cut
derivatives from the Hor-Gon basis
Again: since Hor-Gon basis is something only you believe in, it can>t be
"clear-cut" for anybody else that any particular word is derived from
it. See, you never fail to fall back on your misconception that if you
believe something strongly in your own fantasy, then it becomes clear to
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How many times I must repeat that the main meaning of Hor-Gon is
"circle"
You can repeat it 50 billion times and it will remain an unsupported claim.
(Slavic krug; Russ. круг; Cz. kruh; Gr. krikos; Lat. circus).
If I invented Hor-Gon it is pretty sure that I couldn>t invent words
as circle, circulation, cruising, run etc.
What do you mean, "if" you invented it? It>s entirely your creation.- Hide quoted text -
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I>m not an inventor and I make nothing up. I>ve just discovered the
main principles
"Discovered" means found by applying rigorous reasoning to observed
facts. If you substitute flights of fancy and far-fetched impressions
for rigorous reasoning (such as when you imagine that you can assume
sound X in one word in language A is related to sound Y in one word in
language B, justified solely because there is an X-Y connection between
languages C and D), when you contrive "facts" to fit the theory (such as
when you take two words some pretext for relating their meanings when
there isn>t any real connection) instead of molding the theory to fit
the facts, the result isn>t a discovery, it>s an invention.
The modern linguistics sticks too much to the sound laws and regular
phonetic changes in order to prove the relatedness among different
words.
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And you interpret that as license to invent relationships without evidence.
[quote]It became a kind of "scientific" lunacy, because there are rare
(if any at all) phonetic laws that could be applied strictly, without
a great number of exceptions. For instance, you cannot take a
reduction (syncope) of the English word husband or Serbian gospodin
(gentleman, lord; Lat. hospita) to guest and host
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Of course not, since neither "guest" nor "host" came from "husband" or
"gospodin".
[quote](Srb. gost guest,
gazda host)as a general rule, simply because there is no enough
similar examples. Finally, if you need phonetic rules to understand
that host/guest comes from hospit, then something is terrible wrong
with your reasoning.
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Neither "host" nor "guest" comes from "hospit", though all three are
related. "Host" comes, quite simply, from "hostis". "Guest" doesn>t come
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