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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: Repost: SUPPRESSION OF HAMMOND BY S.P.R. |
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:42:40 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
<nothere@notnow.never> wrote:
[quote]George Hammond wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:47:37 -0700, Uncle Al
UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote:
snip rancid jizzm
Dear Usenet scum,
Here>s the first page of my book
for your reading enjoyment:
_______________THE
______________ SCIENTIFIC
_______________PROOF OF GOD
copyright
G. Hammond
2007
Introduction:
The Discovery of God
The human race is 100,000 years old which is when Homo
sapiens appeared. Civilization is 5,000 years old if we take
the Pyramids to be our oldest monuments. The interior walls
of the Pyramids are engraved in vast Hieroglyphic texts
describing God. Thus God is the oldest subject of learned
discussion known to Man.
Every single sentence in your opening paragraph is either factually
wrong or states a false premise. Given that, you should be able to
"prove" anything you care to.
Matthew
[/quote]
We don>t need a dufus like you to tell us Homo sapiens
appeared 250,00 years ago. The only thing a competent
person needs to know is that they didn>t appear in large
numbers until 90,000 years ago.... why don>t you put on a
dress and apply for a job as a librarian jackass?
Furthermore, the Egyptian civilization is the oldest
MAJOR civilization in the world without any question
Dufus... and it is a (documented-in-stone) fact that they
established the world>s first successful Religion and theory
of God, jackass.... ignorant scumbag pedant.
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Matthew L. Martin Guest
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:33 pm Post subject: Re: Repost: SUPPRESSION OF HAMMOND BY S.P.R. |
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George Hammond wrote:
[quote]On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:42:40 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
nothere@notnow.never> wrote:
George Hammond wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:47:37 -0700, Uncle Al
UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote:
snip rancid jizzm
Dear Usenet scum,
Here>s the first page of my book
for your reading enjoyment:
_______________THE
______________ SCIENTIFIC
_______________PROOF OF GOD
copyright
G. Hammond
2007
Introduction:
The Discovery of God
The human race is 100,000 years old which is when Homo
sapiens appeared. Civilization is 5,000 years old if we take
the Pyramids to be our oldest monuments. The interior walls
of the Pyramids are engraved in vast Hieroglyphic texts
describing God. Thus God is the oldest subject of learned
discussion known to Man.
Every single sentence in your opening paragraph is either factually
wrong or states a false premise. Given that, you should be able to
"prove" anything you care to.
Matthew
We don>t need a dufus like you to tell us Homo sapiens
appeared 250,00 years ago. The only thing a competent
person needs to know is that they didn>t appear in large
numbers until 90,000 years ago.... why don>t you put on a
dress and apply for a job as a librarian jackass?
Furthermore, the Egyptian civilization is the oldest
MAJOR civilization in the world without any question
Dufus... and it is a (documented-in-stone) fact that they
established the world>s first successful Religion and theory
of God, jackass.... ignorant scumbag pedant.
[/quote]
Still more inaccurate, misleading and downright wrong statements. Not to
mention ad hominem attacks instead of a defense of your original
statements. Not a good way to convince anyone capable of thinking for
themselves.
Matthew
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I>m a consultant. If you want an opinion I>ll sell you one.
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George Hammond Guest
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:02 pm Post subject: Re: Repost: SUPPRESSION OF HAMMOND BY S.P.R. |
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:33:32 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
<nothere@notnow.never> wrote:
[quote]George Hammond wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:42:40 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
nothere@notnow.never> wrote:
George Hammond wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:47:37 -0700, Uncle Al
UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote:
snip rancid jizzm
Dear Usenet scum,
Here>s the first page of my book
for your reading enjoyment:
_______________THE
______________ SCIENTIFIC
_______________PROOF OF GOD
copyright
G. Hammond
2007
Introduction:
The Discovery of God
The human race is 100,000 years old which is when Homo
sapiens appeared. Civilization is 5,000 years old if we take
the Pyramids to be our oldest monuments. The interior walls
of the Pyramids are engraved in vast Hieroglyphic texts
describing God. Thus God is the oldest subject of learned
discussion known to Man.
Every single sentence in your opening paragraph is either factually
wrong or states a false premise. Given that, you should be able to
"prove" anything you care to.
Matthew
We don>t need a dufus like you to tell us Homo sapiens
appeared 250,00 years ago. The only thing a competent
person needs to know is that they didn>t appear in large
numbers until 90,000 years ago.... why don>t you put on a
dress and apply for a job as a librarian jackass?
Furthermore, the Egyptian civilization is the oldest
MAJOR civilization in the world without any question
Dufus... and it is a (documented-in-stone) fact that they
established the world>s first successful Religion and theory
of God, jackass.... ignorant scumbag pedant.
Still more inaccurate, misleading and downright wrong statements. Not to
mention ad hominem attacks instead of a defense of your original
statements. Not a good way to convince anyone capable of thinking for
themselves.
Matthew
[/quote]
Horseshit.... get outta here aggravated psycho.
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SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
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GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
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TMG Guest
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:19 am Post subject: Re: Repost: SUPPRESSION OF HAMMOND BY S.P.R. |
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Matthew L. Martin wrote:
[quote]George Hammond wrote:
snip same old george drool
Still more inaccurate, misleading and downright wrong statements. Not to
mention ad hominem attacks instead of a defense of your original
statements. Not a good way to convince anyone capable of thinking for
themselves.
[/quote]
Don>t forget, it>s also just badly written. Fractured, poor grammar,
sentence fragments, and misspellellelled.
The factual content be damned - at least learn to write your fiction well! |
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George Hammond Guest
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:54 am Post subject: Re: Repost: SUPPRESSION OF HAMMOND BY S.P.R. |
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:19:56 -0400, TMG <TMG@nowhere.org>
wrote:
[quote]Matthew L. Martin wrote:
George Hammond wrote:
snip same old george drool
Still more inaccurate, misleading and downright wrong statements. Not to
mention ad hominem attacks instead of a defense of your original
statements. Not a good way to convince anyone capable of thinking for
themselves.
Don>t forget, it>s also just badly written. Fractured, poor grammar,
sentence fragments, and misspellellelled.
The factual content be damned - at least learn to write your fiction well!
[/quote]
Hey its the "WHOEE STALKER". I>m surprised WHOI hasn>t
fired you scumbag, is the FBI still investigating your
computer activities? Still posting non stop to
alt.religion.kibology using your phoney identity stooge?
Get back to work and feed those fishtanks screwball...
you>re so f----- numb it>s pitiful. Its nice to see an
aggravated psycho like you really jealous and foaming at the
mouth Fishflakes. Done anything illegal lately? Hey, your
IP hasn>t changed for over a year, I>d have thought you>d
been run out of town by now of course is notorious for
harboring criminals and official corruption. But, you
better be careful what you say on Usenet, if I ever find out
what your real name is I>ll write every official at WHOI who
knows you including your department head, the Security
Clearance Officer and the FBI about your threats over the
Internet. Keep on comin psycho. You know you can>t stop.
Psycho>s and stalkers like you never can.
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SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
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George Hammond Guest
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:26 pm Post subject: Re: Repost: SUPPRESSION OF HAMMOND BY S.P.R. |
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:51:54 +0100, "Clive - Selectron"
<clive@selectron-uk.co.uk> wrote:
[quote]
This guy is way more fun than you and with no
mention of a sky daddy.
http://jmooneyham.com/edia.html
Scum yerself ya nutter.
-C-
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Go play with your imbecile sci-fi mate wanker.
Sod off of this thread before "sky daddy"
gives you another schizoid reaction.
[quote]
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http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
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Chris McGonnell Guest
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:56 pm Post subject: Re: Repost: SUPPRESSION OF HAMMOND BY S.P.R. |
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 02:54:00 GMT, George Hammond wrote:
[quote]On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:19:56 -0400, TMG <TMG@nowhere.org
wrote:
Matthew L. Martin wrote:
George Hammond wrote:
snip same old george drool
Still more inaccurate, misleading and downright wrong statements. Not to
mention ad hominem attacks instead of a defense of your original
statements. Not a good way to convince anyone capable of thinking for
themselves.
Don>t forget, it>s also just badly written. Fractured, poor grammar,
sentence fragments, and misspellellelled.
The factual content be damned - at least learn to write your fiction well!
Hey its the "WHOEE STALKER". I>m surprised WHOI hasn>t
fired you scumbag, is the FBI still investigating your
computer activities? Still posting non stop to
alt.religion.kibology using your phoney identity stooge?
[/quote]
I thought you>d killfiled TMG, George -- or was that just in your
imaginary computer?
--
Chris McG.
Harming humanity since 1951.
"Well now you>re just getting SILLY." -- Darla
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject: Re: Oneida - A Communal Utopia from 1848 |
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On Nov 13, 10:22 am, nos...@nospam.com (monkie) wrote:
[quote]On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:35:02 -0800, "Raishaan" <raish...@comcast.net
wrote:
Facinating reading. Seems that the weak point of the organization was who
got to drive. Pretty standard human nature. :)
good...@rock.com> wrote in message
news:1194911654.624890.34670@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
I ran across this and thought it sounded interesting.
I have anOneidasilverware tea set, a wedding gift to my parents
(1940>s) from relatives who lived in the NY Finger Lakes district. I
didn>t know theOneidawere so complex. The right of passage or
puberty ritual might be considered a matriarchy .... Christian
matriarchy? It sounds pagan or something It was Queen Victoria who
popularized dedicated marraige between young couples, turned it into a
fad that became the social norm and possibly subverted the communal
tradition.
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I think it would suck to do 40 year old women as a 14 year old. I
would rather do girls my own age at any age. But I don>t think it
would hurt them. If sex is consensual at any age, how does it hurt
the minor? And if it doesn>t hurt them, then why would we hurt and
penalize the adult. If the child is not coerced, restrained,
threatened or forced, then how is it crime? It seems society is doing
evil when it penalizes in such situations. And when you penalize
someone, you hurt not only them, but their friends, and relatives, and
even the minor who they had a relationship with.
The greatest number of people committing child abuse must be parents.
No one has a greater opportunity to commit child rape - incest and get
away with it than a parent. Parents need to know, that while they may
have a right to force their children to do many things, such as play
in little league or clean their rooms, they do not have a right to
force them to have sex with them, for that is rape. Parents do not
have a right to have sex with their children. In fact, they do not
have a right to touch their children in any way without their consent,
just as no one has a right to touch anyone else without their consent,
and it should be illegal to spank your children or strike them in any
way, for that is pure assault. Parents should not lord over their
children in any case, and hopefully they don>t have to force them to
do very many things to begin with.
Children need to have sex ed at a young age, be taught about sex, and
how to deal with abusive parents, that they must either get the abuse
to stop, or suffer the abuse, or be orphans and go into a foster
home. The obvious choice is for the child to get the abuse to stop,
and get on with their lives, if it is not flagrant, and if possible.
Next they need to be taught to tell a school counselor or teacher or
principle or call a number, so they can get out of an abusive family
if it>s too abusive and it doesn>t stop.
But if sex is consensual then I don>t see how it hurts a minor.
Having someone touch your genitals does not hurt you. Having someone
put their mouths on your genitals does not hurt you. Touching someone
else>s genitals does not hurt you. Putting your mouth on someone
else>s genitals does not hurt you, and coitus does not hurt you,
unless it does, and in which case you would be saying "stop" and it
would be rape, and if a minor is forced or restrained it is rape, just
as it is for an adult. If a minor is threatened or coerced it is
rape, just as it is for an adult. And nobody wants to be raped.
Assault is bad to begin with. Rape is a flagrant violation. Desired
hugging is not assault.
And yet perhaps there are some people who had consensual sex with
adults as minors and yet still feel themselves victims, if so, this
would partially contradict what I am saying. That would be some
evidence that it>s somehow rape in any case. Yet even so, at the same
time, there may be some people who had consensual sex with adults as
minors and remember it as the happiest actions of their lives. And
there may be some people who had consensual sex with adults as minors
and felt and feel it nothing and neutral. So one would have to
balance all the cases to determine what the answer was in that case.
In any case, people sometimes make bad decisions in life, both sexual
and otherwise. The mere fact that even large numbers of people chose
to have consensual sex with adults as children and later regretted it
does not necessarily mean that it should be illegal. One would
seriously have to believe in the inability of a child - perhaps a
virgin, to make a willful sexual choice. And this is all based on a
hypothetical assumption that such people who consensually and
willfully chose as children to have sex as adults and later regretted
it actually exist. And any way, they don>t have to have sex again a
second time if they regretted it the first in any case. So such
reasoning may be dubious.
Perhaps not dubious given potential inabilities in children>s
judgment. Perhaps all the more dubious if such children regretted
merely due to the fact that they were taught by society that it was
somehow wrong and bad. That is not truth, but a decision to condemn
something.
Anyway, it would be better if the law could focus on apprehending the
actual rapists. The greatest solution to the problem of child abuse,
is in my opinion, the education of children, and the self reporting of
children. There is no other good way to catch the criminals.
Society makes scapegoats out of lesser sex offenders and ruins many
individuals for no reason. Society is doing evil in this regard. The
current sex-offender registry thing is an abomination that effectively
leaves people in prison for years, with an illusion that they have
been released to the outside. Except for forcible rapists, no one
should be classified as a "sex offender, " if anyone should be
classified as a sex offender at all. in my opinion all these other
sexual offenses are legal, or should at least be worth no more than a
fine. But they seek to make social outcasts of good people, they have
made scapegoats of them, they are nearly the new "niggers" and they
ruin innocent individuals lives, which all the while does nothing
about the real rape and incest which must be going on within homes
behind closed doors of families with tyrants for parents.
Child porno is freedom of the press. It is free speech. Buying it
should no more be a crime, then buying a newspaper with pictures of
the terrorists being sexually abused in prison. Those people who
actually restrain, force, threaten, or coerce children into sexual
acts should be the ones put in jail.
By failing to differentiate between consensual and nonconsensual sex,
they are effectively saying that child rape is just as okay as child
consensual intercourse.
If it legally makes no difference, then it>s possible that some
pedophiles just rape, rather than trying to find consenting children.
A restraining order is an option if an adult is trying to have
consensual sex with one>s children. If they violate the restraining
order they go to jail.
What is it that makes a pedophile attracted to minors? There may be 1
of several things going on:
1) children are easy prey, weak and not wise in the ways of the world
2) The Adult is looking for anyone, doesn>t care about the age, and
the other person just happened to be a minor.
3) the Adult is attracted to kids specifically. If the adult is
attracted to kids specifically, known as a "pedophile," what is it
exactly that attracts them? For instance, would the pedophile be
attracted to a 30 year old adult who _looked_ just like a child?
Would the pedophile be attracted to a 1 year old who had aged
miraculously quickly and looked like a 30 year old? Or is it
something perhaps even more ephemeral, like the "idea" of a child. In
any case, pedophilia is either a fetish or a sexual orientation.
Saying that pedophilia is a mental disorder is like saying that
homosexuality is a mental disorder. With a fetish, sexual
orientation, or desire, the problem arises if it is destructive. If
pedophilia is destructive, as it is in the form of child rape, then
this is a concerning issue. If pedophilia can be expressed in ways
not destructive such as through consensual child intercourse or
possibly pornography of sorts, then perhaps it is not destructive.
People have many different kinds of fantasies, and they need not be
seen as mental disorders as such, unless they become destructive, or
they want to get over them, perhaps through some sort of catharsis.
[quote]Thanks for the history. I>ll think on that next time I brew a pot of
tea!
OneidaSociety
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
TheOneidaCommunity was a utopian commune founded by John Humphrey
Noyes in 1848 inOneida, New York. The community believed that Jesus
Christ had already returned in the year 70, making it possible for
them to bring about Christ>s millennial kingdom themselves, and be
free of sin and perfect in this world, not just Heaven (a belief
called Perfectionism).
TheOneidaCommunity practiced Communalism (in the sense of communal
property and possessions), Complex Marriage, Male Continence, Mutual
Criticism and Ascending Fellowship. There were smaller communities in
Wallingford, Connecticut; Newark, New Jersey; Putney, Vermont; and
Cambridge, Vermont. The community>s original 87 members grew to 172 by
February 1850, 208 by 1852 and 306 by 1878. With the exception of the
Wallingford community, which remained in operation until devastated by
a tornado in 1878, all the rest of the branches were closed in 1854.
TheOneidaCommunity dissolved in 1881, and eventually became the
silverware giantOneidaLimited.
Community structure
Males and females had equality and equal voice in the governance of
the community. A community nursery provided care for infants and
children so that both parents could work. Females adopted a style of
dress, believed to have been copied from the Iroquois, consisting of a
short skirt over trousers (bloomers). This allowed them much greater
freedom of movement than contemporary women>s styles.
Even though the community reached a maximum population of about three
hundred, it had a complex bureaucracy of twenty-seven standing
committees and forty-eight administrative sections.
TheOneidaCommunity was a self-supporting enterprise. Its primary
industries were the growing and canning of fruits and vegetables, the
production of silk thread, and the manufacture of animal traps. They
were the primary supplier of animal traps to the Hudson Bay Company.
The manufacturing of silverware, the sole remaining industry, was not
begun until 1877, relatively late in the life of theOneidaCommunity.
Secondary industries of theOneidaCommunity included the manufacture
of leather travel bags, the weaving of palm frond hats, the
construction of rustic garden furniture, and tourism.
All Community members were expected to work, according to his or her
abilities. Although more skilled jobs tended to remain with one person
(the financial manager, for example, held his post throughout the life
of the Community), Community members rotated through the more menial
jobs, working in the house, the fields, or the various industries. As
the Community thrived, they began to hire outsiders to work in these
positions as well. They were a major employer in the area, with
approximately 200 employees by 1870.
Complex marriage
In theory, every male was married to every female. In practice, this
meant that most adults had continuous sexual access to a partner.
Community members were not to have an exclusive sexual or romantic
relationship with each other, but were to keep in constant
circulation. To help prevent a "special love" from forming, each
Community member had his or her own bedroom. This extended even to
couples who came to the Community already married. A married couple
entering the Community was not required or even encouraged to legally
dissolve their union, but rather to extend the borders of it to the
rest of the Community in complex marriage. The average female
Community member had three sexual encounters, or "interviews", a week.
Post-menopausal women were encouraged to introduce teenage males to
sex, providing both with legitimate partners that rarely resulted in
pregnancies. Furthermore, these women became religious role models for
the young men. Noyes often used his own judgment in determining the
partnerships which would form and would often encourage relationships
between the non-devout and the devout in the community, in the hopes
that the attitudes and behaviors of the devout would influence the non-
devout.
Male continence
Males were encouraged to avoid ejaculation during intercourse with
their partners, as a sign of grace. (Compare with Tantric sex.) This
meant that many sexual acts did not cause impregnation of the female
partner. This practice was based on the idea that "wasting" a man>s
semen was bad, and that difficult pregnancies for women should be
avoided. (Noyes' wife had lost four of five children during her
pregnancies.) TheOneidaCommunity had a low fecundity rate, although
there are around 40 unplanned pregnancies documented during the early
years of theOneidaCommunity.
Male Continence is based on the male>s muscular ability to control his
ejaculation during sexual coitus. Young boys just entering puberty
were only allowed to participate in sexual acts with women who were
past the child bearing age until they had proved their fully mastered
ability to control ejaculation. Many women of the community found male
continence to lead to the furtherment of their sexual enjoyment, as
sexual encounters often could last for more than one hour.
There were rumors at the time claiming that controlling the man>s
'seed' could be detrimental to the male>s health and lead to
infertility, but these claims were later disproved.
Mutual criticism
Every member of the community was subject to criticism by committee or
the community as a whole, during a general meeting. The goal was to
eliminate bad character traits. Various contemporary sources contend
that Noyes himself was the subject of criticism, although less often
and of probably less severe criticism than the rest of the community.
John Humphrey Noyes believed that sex had social and spiritual
purposes, not only biological. To Communitarians, it was yet another
path to perfection. Generally, it was believed that older people were
spiritually superior to younger people, and men were spiritually
superior to women. Noyes and his inner circle were at the top of this
hierarchy in the Community. In order to improve oneself, one was only
supposed to have sexual relations with those spiritually superior.
This was called "ascending fellowship." Once a Community member had
reached a certain level (usually determined by Noyes and his inner
circle), they were then to turn around and practice "descending
fellowship" with those Communitarians trying to work their way up.
Stirpiculture
A program of eugenics, then known as stirpiculture, was introduced in
1869.[1][2] It was a selective breeding program designed to create
even more perfect children. Communitarians who wished to be parents
would go before a committee and get matched based on their spiritual
and moral qualities. 53 women and 38 men participated in this program,
which necessitated the construction of a new wing of theOneida
Community Mansion House. The experiment yielded 58 children, nine of
whom were fathered by Noyes.
Once children were weaned from breast milk (usually at around the age
of one), they were raised communally in the Children>s Wing, or South
Wing. Their parents were allowed to visit, but if those in charge of
the Children>s Wing suspected a parent and child were bonding too
closely to one another, the Community would enforce a period of
separation.
Decline
The community lasted until John Humphrey Noyes attempted to pass the
leadership of the Community to his son, Theodore Noyes. This move was
unsuccessful because Theodore Noyes was an atheist and lacked his
father>s talent for leadership. The move also divided the Community,
with Communitarian John Towner attempting to wrest control for
himself.
Within the commune, there was a debate about when children should be
initiated into sexual rituals, and by whom. There was also much debate
about its practices as a whole. The founding members of the Community
were aging or deceased, and many of the younger Communitarians desired
to enter into exclusive, traditional marriages.
The capstone to all these pressures was the harassment campaign of
Professor Mears, of Hamilton College. John Humphrey Noyes was tipped
off by trusted adviser Myron Kinsley that a warrant for his arrest on
charges of statutory rape was imminent. Noyes fled theOneida
Community Mansion House and the country in the middle of a June night
in 1879, never to return to America alive. Shortly afterwards, he
wrote to his followers from Niagara Falls, Ontario, advising that the
practice of complex marriage be abandoned.
Complex Marriage was abandoned in 1879 following external pressures
and the community soon after broke apart with some of the
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bobandcarole Guest
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: Oneida - A Communal Utopia from 1848 |
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On Nov 19, 5:15�pm, gooddad@rock.com wrote:
[quote]
I think it would suck to do 40 year old women as a 14 year old. �I
would rather do girls my own age at any age. �But I don>t think it
would hurt them. �If sex is consensual at any age, how does it hurt
the minor? �And if it doesn>t hurt them, then why would we hurt and
penalize the adult. �If the child is not coerced, restrained,
snip[/quote]
"gooddad" is the one in the long trench coat that hangs
out at the playground fondling himself while watching
small children. |
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Day Brown Guest
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:26 am Post subject: Re: Oneida - A Communal Utopia from 1848 |
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On Nov 24, 3:44 pm, bobandcarole <bobandcarole...@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]"gooddad" is the one in the long trench coat that hangs
out at the playground fondling himself while watching
small children.
So what? You are talking about a thot crime. There already is 3D[/quote]
virtual reality game software being used to produce what looks like
child pornography, only it aint cause there aint no child.
Hominids have been on the planet for over 100,000 years, and so far as
we can tell, all the primitive tribes had puberty rites. And you know
what? they did it at, of all things, puberty. None of the video or
anthro reports that I>ve seen mention dementia such as you depict, and
I dont see that they *ever* have any of their kids kidnapped, raped,
and murdered. That only happens in modern cultures which try to put
off sexual activity til age 18.
Your moral high ground is a swamp. Basically, the alpha male has
always instinctively known that if he can have sex with a pubescent
girl, she will become bonded to him, and in time bear his young. The
dominant hunter males are seen as the most reliable food suppliers, so
the girls try to get on their good side thru sex.
But now, after 5000 years of rule by the warrior class, this ancient
quid pro quo is breaking down. Young women, age 21-30, make more money
than young men. Very few men are now seen as the source of financial
security, and they know that. The cognitive dissonnance, between what
their instincts are telling them, and what the growing power of
matriarchy says is resulting in lots of pathology, including fantasy
such as you describe.
The solution is the abandonment of the nuclear family model in favor
of the security of communal living, where the matrons are in the house
at all times keeping an eye on the kids while the moms and the men
produce the resources to support the system. The history is obscure,
but the Mosou of SW China still do it this way. Their rape rate is...
zero. They dont have any private spaces for pervs to abuse kids
either.
The reports from Sparta are consistent with what we know of other
communal housing systems in which the girls at puberty have coming out
parties. Nobody cares what the boys do. They dont get pregnant. But
the main reason the witches were burned at the stake was because they
were providing herbal birth control to make sure the girls didnt
either. Cultures where the women did this, had women living longer
than men. The sexual services of the girls motivated the men to
contribute to the welfare of the whole community, including all the
kids, not just those any given male leader sired.
And when you look at their graveyards, such as at Varna Bulgaria, from
5000 years ago, you dont find any kids. Everyone grew up well
nourished into adulthood, and the women averaged in their 40>s. A
longevity not seen again until the turn of the last century. Today>s
women need to take another look at this and decide what is best for
their kids. |
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ªºªandcarole(R)(tm) Guest
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: Oneida - A Communal Utopia from 1848 |
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On Nov 25, 1:26�am, pedophile Day Brown <daybr...@hughes.net> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 24, 3:44 pm, bobandcarole <bobandcarole...@gmail.com> wrote:> "gooddad" is the one in the long trench coat that hangs
out at the playground fondling himself while watching
small children.
So what?
[/quote]
How pedophile of you......
You are talking about a thot crime. There already is 3D
[quote]virtual reality game software being used to produce what looks like
child pornography, only it aint cause there aint no child.
[/quote]
And it>s illegal in the USA
[quote]Hominids have been on the planet for over 100,000 years, and so far as
we can tell, all the primitive tribes had puberty rites
[/quote]
The key word is "primitive" asswipe.....
[quote]Today>s
women need to take another look at this and decide what is best for
their kids.
[/quote]
They do, they kick baby rapists in the balls and call the police
Then we give the deviant 25 to life..... |
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Day Brown Guest
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: Oneida - A Communal Utopia from 1848 |
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On Nov 25, 7:51 am, "ªºªandcarole(R)(tm)" <bobandcarole...@gmail.com>
wrote:
[quote]On Nov 25, 1:26�am, pedophile Day Brown <daybr...@hughes.net> wrote:
On Nov 24, 3:44 pm, bobandcarole <bobandcarole...@gmail.com> wrote:> "gooddad" is the one in the long trench coat that hangs
out at the playground fondling himself while watching
small children.
So what?
How pedophile of you......
You are talking about a thot crime. There already is 3D
virtual reality game software being used to produce what looks like
child pornography, only it aint cause there aint no child.
And it>s illegal in the USA
Hominids have been on the planet for over 100,000 years, and so far as
we can tell, all the primitive tribes had puberty rites
The key word is "primitive" asswipe.....
Today>s
women need to take another look at this and decide what is best for
their kids.
They do, they kick baby rapists in the balls and call the police
Then we give the deviant 25 to life.....
Its too bad you cant carry on discourse in a civil manner. Its not[/quote]
upta me. I didnt make the rules. I>m just telling you about the places
I know where the children were not abused, which you snipped, and then
reporting about what the pervs are doing. As for making software
illegal? What? There>s no there there. No child is involved in its
production. Who getsta decide what images are perverse? You? Well I
dont care. The net is global, and the world dont giva f ck what you
think, or how your moral sensibilities are disturbed.
Must be driving you nuts. My condolences. |
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bobandcarole Guest
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: Oneida - A Communal Utopia from 1848 |
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On Nov 25, 3:09Â pm, Day Brown <daybr...@hughes.net> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 25, 7:51 am, "ªºªandcarole(R)(tm)" <bobandcarole...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Nov 25, 1:26�am, pedophile Day Brown <daybr...@hughes.net> wrote:
On Nov 24, 3:44 pm, bobandcarole <bobandcarole...@gmail.com> wrote:> "gooddad" is the one in the long trench coat that hangs
out at the playground fondling himself while watching
small children.
So what?
How pedophile of you......
You are talking about a thot crime. There already is 3D
virtual reality game software being used to produce what looks like
child pornography, only it aint cause there aint no child.
And it>s illegal in the USA
Hominids have been on the planet for over 100,000 years, and so far as
we can tell, all the primitive tribes had puberty rites
The key word is "primitive" asswipe.....
 >Today>s
women need to take another look at this and decide what is best for
their kids.
They do, they kick baby rapists in the balls and call the police
Then we give the deviant 25 to life.....
Its too bad you cant carry on discourse in a civil manner.
[/quote]
My sincere apologies Now go f ck yourself....
Its not
[quote]upta me. I didnt make the rules. I>m just telling you about the places
I know where the children were not abused, which you snipped, and then
reporting about what the pervs are doing. As for making software
illegal? What? There>s no there there. No child is involved in its
production. Who getsta decide what images are perverse? You? Well I
dont care. The net is global, and the world dont giva f ck what you
think, or how your moral sensibilities are disturbed.
Must be driving you nuts.
[/quote]
No but idiots like you keep me laughing!! |
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