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Guest

To enter the military, an equivalent minimum IQ of 85 is required.
This means half of all DAFNz are excluded - the DUMBEST half.
This requirement excludes only about 15% of whites.

Let>s see how the *children* of the SMARTEST half of all DAFNz
perform in Dept of Defense schools for military dependents:

http://www.aypf.org/forumbriefs/2002/fb042602.htm
************************** excerpt **********************************
School Success and Minority Student Achievement in Department of
Defense Schools -- A Forum Brief — April 26, 2002

[...] The NAEP results showed that African American...students
enrolled in Department of Defense (DoD) schools in the United States
and abroad ranked No. 1 and No. 2 among African Americans...in the
nation on reading and writing tests.

[...] DoD operates 224 elementary and secondary schools
(155 are overseas and 69 are in the United States) that enroll
about 112,000 students. Of the students, 50% are white, 20% are
African American, 9% Hispanic, 15% Bi/Multi Racial, and 6% Asian.

[...] The researchers...reported that the gap between the performance
of white students and that of African-American...was narrower than
this gap in the 50 states.
***********************************************************************

The report tries to suggest that the gap reduction is due to various
quallities of the DoD schools, as if DoD knows something the rest of
the nation>s educators don>t. But in fact, the resultz are *exactly*
what you would expect when you compare the *children* of all DAFNz,
with the *children* of the *Smartest_Half* of all DAFNz.

Since intellectual performance is highly genetic in origin, the
children of the smartest parents in a group are going to do better
than the children of all parents in that group. Not rocket science,
just exactly what would be expected from the genetics.

And, of course, the DAFN/white *gap* is still there, just smaller.
Again, exactly what you would expect from what is known and
predicted from existing data, i.e., the IQ of the smartest half
of all DAFNz is approximately equal to the IQ of the dumbest half
of all whites (see the DAFN-white IQ bell curves shown on pg 279, TBC)
that average value is approximately IQ=90 for those sub-groups.

DAFNz...what Mother_Nature hath genetically created unequal.
The DoD school resultz simply provide powerful additional *proof*...

Eustace Bagg · Guest

The article states the gap is smaller but it doesn>t tell us
how much smaller. Everybody gets all excited when the gap
closes by as little as 3 points. Since no hard facts were
presented, I>m going to assume that the closure wasn>t that
all that fancy.

E.B.

<makemyday@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:3F7C0AFF.A952CC89@worldnet.att.net...
[quote]
To enter the military, an equivalent minimum IQ of 85 is
required.
This means half of all DAFNz are excluded - the DUMBEST
half.
This requirement excludes only about 15% of whites.

Let>s see how the *children* of the SMARTEST half of all
DAFNz
perform in Dept of Defense schools for military
dependents:

http://www.aypf.org/forumbriefs/2002/fb042602.htm
************************** excerpt
**********************************
School Success and Minority Student Achievement in
Department of
Defense Schools -- A Forum Brief - April 26, 2002

[...] The NAEP results showed that African
American...students
enrolled in Department of Defense (DoD) schools in the
United States
and abroad ranked No. 1 and No. 2 among African
Americans...in the
nation on reading and writing tests.

[...] DoD operates 224 elementary and secondary schools
(155 are overseas and 69 are in the United States) that
enroll
about 112,000 students. Of the students, 50% are white,
20% are
African American, 9% Hispanic, 15% Bi/Multi Racial, and 6%
Asian.

[...] The researchers...reported that the gap between the
performance
of white students and that of African-American...was
narrower than
this gap in the 50 states.

************************************************************[/quote]
***********
[quote]
The report tries to suggest that the gap reduction is due
to various
quallities of the DoD schools, as if DoD knows something
the rest of
the nation>s educators don>t. But in fact, the resultz
are *exactly*
what you would expect when you compare the *children* of
all DAFNz,
with the *children* of the *Smartest_Half* of all DAFNz.

Since intellectual performance is highly genetic in
origin, the
children of the smartest parents in a group are going to
do better
than the children of all parents in that group. Not rocket
science,
just exactly what would be expected from the genetics.

And, of course, the DAFN/white *gap* is still there, just
smaller.
Again, exactly what you would expect from what is known
and
predicted from existing data, i.e., the IQ of the smartest
half
of all DAFNz is approximately equal to the IQ of the
dumbest half
of all whites (see the DAFN-white IQ bell curves shown on
pg 279, TBC)
that average value is approximately IQ=90 for those
sub-groups.

DAFNz...what Mother_Nature hath genetically created
unequal.
The DoD school resultz simply provide powerful additional
*proof*...[/quote]

Guest

Eustace Bagg wrote:
[quote]
The article states the gap is smaller but it doesn>t tell us
how much smaller. Everybody gets all excited when the gap
closes by as little as 3 points. Since no hard facts were
presented, I>m going to assume that the closure wasn>t that
all that fancy.
[/quote]
I had noticed that. It is a frequent ploy of the PC types to obscure
how bad off DAFNhood really is. If you follow the links, the actual
report is available on .pdf, but it isn>t going to change the
genetic bottom line...

[quote]
E.B.

makemyday@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:3F7C0AFF.A952CC89@worldnet.att.net...

To enter the military, an equivalent minimum IQ of 85 is
required.
This means half of all DAFNz are excluded - the DUMBEST
half.
This requirement excludes only about 15% of whites.

Let>s see how the *children* of the SMARTEST half of all
DAFNz
perform in Dept of Defense schools for military
dependents:

http://www.aypf.org/forumbriefs/2002/fb042602.htm
************************** excerpt
**********************************
School Success and Minority Student Achievement in
Department of
Defense Schools -- A Forum Brief - April 26, 2002

[...] The NAEP results showed that African
American...students
enrolled in Department of Defense (DoD) schools in the
United States
and abroad ranked No. 1 and No. 2 among African
Americans...in the
nation on reading and writing tests.

[...] DoD operates 224 elementary and secondary schools
(155 are overseas and 69 are in the United States) that
enroll
about 112,000 students. Of the students, 50% are white,
20% are
African American, 9% Hispanic, 15% Bi/Multi Racial, and 6%
Asian.

[...] The researchers...reported that the gap between the
performance
of white students and that of African-American...was
narrower than
this gap in the 50 states.

************************************************************
***********

The report tries to suggest that the gap reduction is due
to various
quallities of the DoD schools, as if DoD knows something
the rest of
the nation>s educators don>t. But in fact, the resultz
are *exactly*
what you would expect when you compare the *children* of
all DAFNz,
with the *children* of the *Smartest_Half* of all DAFNz.

Since intellectual performance is highly genetic in
origin, the
children of the smartest parents in a group are going to
do better
than the children of all parents in that group. Not rocket
science,
just exactly what would be expected from the genetics.

And, of course, the DAFN/white *gap* is still there, just
smaller.
Again, exactly what you would expect from what is known
and
predicted from existing data, i.e., the IQ of the smartest
half
of all DAFNz is approximately equal to the IQ of the
dumbest half
of all whites (see the DAFN-white IQ bell curves shown on
pg 279, TBC)
that average value is approximately IQ=90 for those
sub-groups.

DAFNz...what Mother_Nature hath genetically created
unequal.
The DoD school resultz simply provide powerful additional
*proof*...[/quote]

Eustace Bagg · Guest

There is a 13 point gap in writing and a 17 point gap in
reading. Science, social studies and math were not
addressed in the report. Did you notice that the beaners
beat the DAFNz like a stepchild?
http://peabody.vanderbilt.edu/pdf/DoDFinal921.pdf

E.B.

<makemyday@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:3F7C1726.BDFCB9F3@worldnet.att.net...
[quote]

Eustace Bagg wrote:

The article states the gap is smaller but it doesn>t
tell us
how much smaller. Everybody gets all excited when the
gap
closes by as little as 3 points. Since no hard facts
were
presented, I>m going to assume that the closure wasn>t
that
all that fancy.

I had noticed that. It is a frequent ploy of the PC types
to obscure
how bad off DAFNhood really is. If you follow the links,
the actual
report is available on .pdf, but it isn>t going to change
the
genetic bottom line...

E.B.

makemyday@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:3F7C0AFF.A952CC89@worldnet.att.net...

To enter the military, an equivalent minimum IQ of 85
is
required.
This means half of all DAFNz are excluded - the
DUMBEST
half.
This requirement excludes only about 15% of whites.

Let>s see how the *children* of the SMARTEST half of
all
DAFNz
perform in Dept of Defense schools for military
dependents:

http://www.aypf.org/forumbriefs/2002/fb042602.htm
************************** excerpt
**********************************
School Success and Minority Student Achievement in
Department of
Defense Schools -- A Forum Brief - April 26, 2002

[...] The NAEP results showed that African
American...students
enrolled in Department of Defense (DoD) schools in the
United States
and abroad ranked No. 1 and No. 2 among African
Americans...in the
nation on reading and writing tests.

[...] DoD operates 224 elementary and secondary
schools
(155 are overseas and 69 are in the United States)
that
enroll
about 112,000 students. Of the students, 50% are
white,
20% are
African American, 9% Hispanic, 15% Bi/Multi Racial,
and 6%
Asian.

[...] The researchers...reported that the gap between
the
performance
of white students and that of African-American...was
narrower than
this gap in the 50 states.

************************************************************
***********

The report tries to suggest that the gap reduction is
due
to various
quallities of the DoD schools, as if DoD knows
something
the rest of
the nation>s educators don>t. But in fact, the
resultz
are *exactly*
what you would expect when you compare the *children*
of
all DAFNz,
with the *children* of the *Smartest_Half* of all
DAFNz.

Since intellectual performance is highly genetic in
origin, the
children of the smartest parents in a group are going
to
do better
than the children of all parents in that group. Not
rocket
science,
just exactly what would be expected from the genetics.

And, of course, the DAFN/white *gap* is still there,
just
smaller.
Again, exactly what you would expect from what is
known
and
predicted from existing data, i.e., the IQ of the
smartest
half
of all DAFNz is approximately equal to the IQ of the
dumbest half
of all whites (see the DAFN-white IQ bell curves shown
on
pg 279, TBC)
that average value is approximately IQ=90 for those
sub-groups.

DAFNz...what Mother_Nature hath genetically created
unequal.
The DoD school resultz simply provide powerful
additional
*proof*...[/quote]

diff'rent strokes · Guest

makemyday@worldnet.att.net wrote in news:3F7C0AFF.A952CC89
@worldnet.att.net:

[quote]
To enter the military, an equivalent minimum IQ of 85 is required.
This means half of all DAFNz are excluded - the DUMBEST half.
This requirement excludes only about 15% of whites.

Let>s see how the *children* of the SMARTEST half of all DAFNz
perform in Dept of Defense schools for military dependents:

http://www.aypf.org/forumbriefs/2002/fb042602.htm
************************** excerpt **********************************
School Success and Minority Student Achievement in Department of
Defense Schools -- A Forum Brief — April 26, 2002

[...] The NAEP results showed that African American...students
enrolled in Department of Defense (DoD) schools in the United States
and abroad ranked No. 1 and No. 2 among African Americans...in the
nation on reading and writing tests.

[...] DoD operates 224 elementary and secondary schools
(155 are overseas and 69 are in the United States) that enroll
about 112,000 students. Of the students, 50% are white, 20% are
African American, 9% Hispanic, 15% Bi/Multi Racial, and 6% Asian.

[...] The researchers...reported that the gap between the performance
of white students and that of African-American...was narrower than
this gap in the 50 states.
***********************************************************************

The report tries to suggest that the gap reduction is due to various
quallities of the DoD schools, as if DoD knows something the rest of
the nation>s educators don>t. But in fact, the resultz are *exactly*
what you would expect when you compare the *children* of all DAFNz,
with the *children* of the *Smartest_Half* of all DAFNz.

Since intellectual performance is highly genetic in origin, the
children of the smartest parents in a group are going to do better
than the children of all parents in that group. Not rocket science,
just exactly what would be expected from the genetics.

And, of course, the DAFN/white *gap* is still there, just smaller.
Again, exactly what you would expect from what is known and
predicted from existing data, i.e., the IQ of the smartest half
of all DAFNz is approximately equal to the IQ of the dumbest half
of all whites (see the DAFN-white IQ bell curves shown on pg 279, TBC)
that average value is approximately IQ=90 for those sub-groups.

DAFNz...what Mother_Nature hath genetically created unequal.
The DoD school resultz simply provide powerful additional *proof*...

[/quote]
Not to mention that all these students come from families of similar
"culture" (military culture) and of similar economic means.

That completely throws the "money makes you smart" argument out the
window.

Who>s yer daddy, boy?!

King of SCAA

Country Fish · Guest

"Eustace Bagg" <Bagg@nowhere.net> wrote in news:fmVeb.2852$Zm2.149480
@kent.svc.tds.net:

[quote]There is a 13 point gap in writing and a 17 point gap in
reading. Science, social studies and math were not
addressed in the report. Did you notice that the beaners
beat the DAFNz like a stepchild?
http://peabody.vanderbilt.edu/pdf/DoDFinal921.pdf

[/quote]
Let>s not forget one important thing: the best and brightest of the
whites probably are not going to make careers out of being in the
military.

Most people are motivated by money, as such, a military career isn>t
going to make you rich, most whites know it, and they>ll pursue private
sector jobs.

For blacks, on the other hand, a military career provides a nice,
comfortable living and a pension. Considering the astronomically high
rate of black unemployment, more of the blacks in the military are likely
to be the creme of the crop of blacks. The military has been for blacks
a place where they can escape the crime and unemployment of their
communities. There may be more opportunity available for blacks in the
military than the private sector.

Either way, I don>t think this study is going to be representative of the
general population. I mean no offense against whites in the military--
there are some really smart ones. But, most people are motivated by
money, and this precludes a military career.

It does, however, show that black kids with similar incomes and
environments as whites will continue to perform at a lower level than
whites. Of course, this is something we already know, right?

The gap will never close.

Who>s yer daddy, boy?!

King of SCAA

[quote]E.B.

makemyday@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:3F7C1726.BDFCB9F3@worldnet.att.net...

Eustace Bagg wrote:

The article states the gap is smaller but it doesn>t
tell us
how much smaller. Everybody gets all excited when the
gap
closes by as little as 3 points. Since no hard facts
were
presented, I>m going to assume that the closure wasn>t
that
all that fancy.

I had noticed that. It is a frequent ploy of the PC types
to obscure
how bad off DAFNhood really is. If you follow the links,
the actual
report is available on .pdf, but it isn>t going to change
the
genetic bottom line...

E.B.

makemyday@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:3F7C0AFF.A952CC89@worldnet.att.net...

To enter the military, an equivalent minimum IQ of 85
is
required.
This means half of all DAFNz are excluded - the
DUMBEST
half.
This requirement excludes only about 15% of whites.

Let>s see how the *children* of the SMARTEST half of
all
DAFNz
perform in Dept of Defense schools for military
dependents:

http://www.aypf.org/forumbriefs/2002/fb042602.htm
************************** excerpt
**********************************
School Success and Minority Student Achievement in
Department of
Defense Schools -- A Forum Brief - April 26, 2002

[...] The NAEP results showed that African
American...students
enrolled in Department of Defense (DoD) schools in the
United States
and abroad ranked No. 1 and No. 2 among African
Americans...in the
nation on reading and writing tests.

[...] DoD operates 224 elementary and secondary
schools
(155 are overseas and 69 are in the United States)
that
enroll
about 112,000 students. Of the students, 50% are
white,
20% are
African American, 9% Hispanic, 15% Bi/Multi Racial,
and 6%
Asian.

[...] The researchers...reported that the gap between
the
performance
of white students and that of African-American...was
narrower than
this gap in the 50 states.

************************************************************
***********

The report tries to suggest that the gap reduction is
due
to various
quallities of the DoD schools, as if DoD knows
something
the rest of
the nation>s educators don>t. But in fact, the
resultz
are *exactly*
what you would expect when you compare the *children*
of
all DAFNz,
with the *children* of the *Smartest_Half* of all
DAFNz.

Since intellectual performance is highly genetic in
origin, the
children of the smartest parents in a group are going
to
do better
than the children of all parents in that group. Not
rocket
science,
just exactly what would be expected from the genetics.

And, of course, the DAFN/white *gap* is still there,
just
smaller.
Again, exactly what you would expect from what is
known
and
predicted from existing data, i.e., the IQ of the
smartest
half
of all DAFNz is approximately equal to the IQ of the
dumbest half
of all whites (see the DAFN-white IQ bell curves shown
on
pg 279, TBC)
that average value is approximately IQ=90 for those
sub-groups.

DAFNz...what Mother_Nature hath genetically created
unequal.
The DoD school resultz simply provide powerful
additional
*proof*...

[/quote]

David Richardson · Guest

"diff>rent strokes" <lkjklakjakj> wrote in message news:<e14585dfdb1499dfd20093d74a12acba@news.teranews.com>...
[quote]makemyday@worldnet.att.net wrote in news:3F7C0AFF.A952CC89
@worldnet.att.net:

To enter the military, an equivalent minimum IQ of 85 is required.
This means half of all DAFNz are excluded - the DUMBEST half.
This requirement excludes only about 15% of whites.

Let>s see how the *children* of the SMARTEST half of all DAFNz
perform in Dept of Defense schools for military dependents:

http://www.aypf.org/forumbriefs/2002/fb042602.htm
************************** excerpt **********************************
School Success and Minority Student Achievement in Department of
Defense Schools -- A Forum Brief ? April 26, 2002

[...] The NAEP results showed that African American...students
enrolled in Department of Defense (DoD) schools in the United States
and abroad ranked No. 1 and No. 2 among African Americans...in the
nation on reading and writing tests.

[...] DoD operates 224 elementary and secondary schools
(155 are overseas and 69 are in the United States) that enroll
about 112,000 students. Of the students, 50% are white, 20% are
African American, 9% Hispanic, 15% Bi/Multi Racial, and 6% Asian.

[...] The researchers...reported that the gap between the performance
of white students and that of African-American...was narrower than
this gap in the 50 states.
***********************************************************************

The report tries to suggest that the gap reduction is due to various
quallities of the DoD schools, as if DoD knows something the rest of
the nation>s educators don>t. But in fact, the resultz are *exactly*
what you would expect when you compare the *children* of all DAFNz,
with the *children* of the *Smartest_Half* of all DAFNz.

Since intellectual performance is highly genetic in origin, the
children of the smartest parents in a group are going to do better
than the children of all parents in that group. Not rocket science,
just exactly what would be expected from the genetics.

And, of course, the DAFN/white *gap* is still there, just smaller.
Again, exactly what you would expect from what is known and
predicted from existing data, i.e., the IQ of the smartest half
of all DAFNz is approximately equal to the IQ of the dumbest half
of all whites (see the DAFN-white IQ bell curves shown on pg 279, TBC)
that average value is approximately IQ=90 for those sub-groups.

DAFNz...what Mother_Nature hath genetically created unequal.
The DoD school resultz simply provide powerful additional *proof*...

Not to mention that all these students come from families of similar
"culture" (military culture) and of similar economic means.

That completely throws the "money makes you smart" argument out the
window.

Who>s yer daddy, boy?!

King of SCAA
[/quote]
Actually,

You fail to see the difference in the societal structure of the
military. I was raised in a military family and I had a family in the
military society.

First, a larger percentage of the families are two-parent then in the
outside. Next, the behaviour of your family can have a direct impact
on your career; infractions will be reported to your commander who
will expect you to get your family in line.

The school systems are better because they don>t have to worry about
the violence that you see in urban schools; I would imagine that if
you looked at the scores based upon rank, you would even see an even
smaller gap.

Your blind contention that genetics is a large determining factor, is
simply based upon your desperate need for these facts to exactly fit
how you see the world.

Granted, I agree with you that the Black community is doing extremely
poorly in many of the educational metrics - I just don>t see genetics
as an overriding factor in the equation...

dratster

TLD · Guest

drichardson_all4one@yahoo.com (David Richardson) wrote in
news:88698706.0310021932.10298492@posting.google.com:

[quote]"diff>rent strokes" <lkjklakjakj> wrote in message
news:<e14585dfdb1499dfd20093d74a12acba@news.teranews.com>...
makemyday@worldnet.att.net wrote in news:3F7C0AFF.A952CC89
@worldnet.att.net:

To enter the military, an equivalent minimum IQ of 85 is required.
This means half of all DAFNz are excluded - the DUMBEST half.
This requirement excludes only about 15% of whites.

Let>s see how the *children* of the SMARTEST half of all DAFNz
perform in Dept of Defense schools for military dependents:

http://www.aypf.org/forumbriefs/2002/fb042602.htm
************************** excerpt
********************************** School Success and Minority
Student Achievement in Department of Defense Schools -- A Forum
Brief ? April 26, 2002

[...] The NAEP results showed that African American...students
enrolled in Department of Defense (DoD) schools in the United
States and abroad ranked No. 1 and No. 2 among African
Americans...in the nation on reading and writing tests.

[...] DoD operates 224 elementary and secondary schools
(155 are overseas and 69 are in the United States) that enroll
about 112,000 students. Of the students, 50% are white, 20% are
African American, 9% Hispanic, 15% Bi/Multi Racial, and 6% Asian.

[...] The researchers...reported that the gap between the
performance of white students and that of African-American...was
narrower than this gap in the 50 states.
********************************************************************
***

The report tries to suggest that the gap reduction is due to
various quallities of the DoD schools, as if DoD knows something
the rest of the nation>s educators don>t. But in fact, the resultz
are *exactly* what you would expect when you compare the *children*
of all DAFNz, with the *children* of the *Smartest_Half* of all
DAFNz.

Since intellectual performance is highly genetic in origin, the
children of the smartest parents in a group are going to do better
than the children of all parents in that group. Not rocket science,
just exactly what would be expected from the genetics.

And, of course, the DAFN/white *gap* is still there, just smaller.
Again, exactly what you would expect from what is known and
predicted from existing data, i.e., the IQ of the smartest half
of all DAFNz is approximately equal to the IQ of the dumbest half
of all whites (see the DAFN-white IQ bell curves shown on pg 279,
TBC) that average value is approximately IQ=90 for those
sub-groups.

DAFNz...what Mother_Nature hath genetically created unequal.
The DoD school resultz simply provide powerful additional
*proof*...

Not to mention that all these students come from families of similar
"culture" (military culture) and of similar economic means.

That completely throws the "money makes you smart" argument out the
window.

Who>s yer daddy, boy?!

King of SCAA

Actually,

You fail to see the difference in the societal structure of the
military. I was raised in a military family and I had a family in the
military society.
[/quote]
How many years ago was this? Do things change with time?

[quote]
First, a larger percentage of the families are two-parent then in the
outside. Next, the behaviour of your family can have a direct impact
on your career; infractions will be reported to your commander who
will expect you to get your family in line.
[/quote]
So, basically, in the military, the parents care about their children and
how they behave. This would not be out of line with the "blacks in the
military are more intelligent than the civilian blacks" theory.

[quote]
The school systems are better because they don>t have to worry about
the violence that you see in urban schools; I would imagine that if
you looked at the scores based upon rank, you would even see an even
smaller gap.
[/quote]
Rank? What would rank have to do with whether or not a student gets an
answer correct on a test.

Again, you are using status, in this case rank versus your usual economic
argument, as an explanation of academic performance.

I>ve known rich kids who flunked out of college. I>ve known poor kids
who excelled.

The relationship between status and peformance would be very weak at
best, and *not* statistically significant.

[quote]
Your blind contention that genetics is a large determining factor, is
simply based upon your desperate need for these facts to exactly fit
how you see the world.
[/quote]
True or false:

There can be intelligent kids and stupid kids within the same family.

Emotions and thoughts are chemical reactions in the brain.

Genetics can play a role in chemical balances in the brain (depression,
for example, is known to have a hereditary component).

Therefore, genetics plays a role in intelligence.

(I can expand this reasoning to be more encompassing if you like.)

[quote]
Granted, I agree with you that the Black community is doing extremely
poorly in many of the educational metrics - I just don>t see genetics
as an overriding factor in the equation...
[/quote]
What is intelligence?

Language skills

Pattern recognition

Problem solving/logical reasoning skills

....and more.

Blacks perform nearly as well as whites in the language area. But lag
dramatically in the other two areas mentioned above.

How can blacks achieve parity (nearly) with whites in one area, and lag
in the other if there isn>t a genetic component?

Again, remember that the thought process is a chemical reaction in the
brain, and genetics influences these chemical reactions and amounts of
chemicals.

This also explains negro>s violent tendencies--impulse control is an
emotion, and emotions are chemical reactions which are influenced by
genetics...and so on.

Who>s yer daddy, boy?!

King of SCAA

[quote]
dratster
[/quote]

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makemyday@worldnet.att.net wrote in
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To enter the military, an equivalent minimum IQ of 85
is required.
This means half of all DAFNz are excluded - the
DUMBEST half.
This requirement excludes only about 15% of whites.

Let>s see how the *children* of the SMARTEST half of
all DAFNz
perform in Dept of Defense schools for military
dependents:

http://www.aypf.org/forumbriefs/2002/fb042602.htm
************************** excerpt
**********************************
School Success and Minority Student Achievement in
Department of
Defense Schools -- A Forum Brief ? April 26, 2002

[...] The NAEP results showed that African
American...students
enrolled in Department of Defense (DoD) schools in the
United States
and abroad ranked No. 1 and No. 2 among African
Americans...in the
nation on reading and writing tests.

[...] DoD operates 224 elementary and secondary
schools
(155 are overseas and 69 are in the United States)
that enroll
about 112,000 students. Of the students, 50% are
white, 20% are
African American, 9% Hispanic, 15% Bi/Multi Racial,
and 6% Asian.

[...] The researchers...reported that the gap between
the performance
of white students and that of African-American...was
narrower than
this gap in the 50 states.

************************************************************[/quote]
***********
[quote]
The report tries to suggest that the gap reduction is
due to various
quallities of the DoD schools, as if DoD knows
something the rest of
the nation>s educators don>t. But in fact, the
resultz are *exactly*
what you would expect when you compare the *children*
of all DAFNz,
with the *children* of the *Smartest_Half* of all
DAFNz.

Since intellectual performance is highly genetic in
origin, the
children of the smartest parents in a group are going
to do better
than the children of all parents in that group. Not
rocket science,
just exactly what would be expected from the genetics.

And, of course, the DAFN/white *gap* is still there,
just smaller.
Again, exactly what you would expect from what is
known and
predicted from existing data, i.e., the IQ of the
smartest half
of all DAFNz is approximately equal to the IQ of the
dumbest half
of all whites (see the DAFN-white IQ bell curves shown
on pg 279, TBC)
that average value is approximately IQ=90 for those
sub-groups.

DAFNz...what Mother_Nature hath genetically created
unequal.
The DoD school resultz simply provide powerful
additional *proof*...

Not to mention that all these students come from
families of similar
"culture" (military culture) and of similar economic
means.

That completely throws the "money makes you smart"
argument out the
window.

Who>s yer daddy, boy?!

King of SCAA

Actually,

You fail to see the difference in the societal structure
of the
military. I was raised in a military family and I had a
family in the
military society.

First, a larger percentage of the families are two-parent
then in the
outside. Next, the behaviour of your family can have a
direct impact
on your career; infractions will be reported to your
commander who
will expect you to get your family in line.

The school systems are better because they don>t have to
worry about
the violence that you see in urban schools; I would
imagine that if
you looked at the scores based upon rank, you would even
see an even
smaller gap.

Your blind contention that genetics is a large determining
factor, is
simply based upon your desperate need for these facts to
exactly fit
how you see the world.

Granted, I agree with you that the Black community is
doing extremely
poorly in many of the educational metrics - I just don>t
see genetics
as an overriding factor in the equation...

dratster
[/quote]
It is amazing that you can type so well being blind like you
are.

E.B.

bnichols · Guest

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makemyday@worldnet.att.net wrote in
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@worldnet.att.net:

To enter the military, an equivalent minimum IQ of 85
is required.
This means half of all DAFNz are excluded - the
DUMBEST half.
This requirement excludes only about 15% of whites.

Let>s see how the *children* of the SMARTEST half of
all DAFNz
perform in Dept of Defense schools for military
dependents:

http://www.aypf.org/forumbriefs/2002/fb042602.htm
************************** excerpt
**********************************
School Success and Minority Student Achievement in
Department of
Defense Schools -- A Forum Brief ? April 26, 2002

[...] The NAEP results showed that African
American...students
enrolled in Department of Defense (DoD) schools in the
United States
and abroad ranked No. 1 and No. 2 among African
Americans...in the
nation on reading and writing tests.

[...] DoD operates 224 elementary and secondary
schools
(155 are overseas and 69 are in the United States)
that enroll
about 112,000 students. Of the students, 50% are
white, 20% are
African American, 9% Hispanic, 15% Bi/Multi Racial,
and 6% Asian.

[...] The researchers...reported that the gap between
the performance
of white students and that of African-American...was
narrower than
this gap in the 50 states.

************************************************************
***********

The report tries to suggest that the gap reduction is
due to various
quallities of the DoD schools, as if DoD knows
something the rest of
the nation>s educators don>t. But in fact, the
resultz are *exactly*
what you would expect when you compare the *children*
of all DAFNz,
with the *children* of the *Smartest_Half* of all
DAFNz.

Since intellectual performance is highly genetic in
origin, the
children of the smartest parents in a group are going
to do better
than the children of all parents in that group. Not
rocket science,
just exactly what would be expected from the genetics.

And, of course, the DAFN/white *gap* is still there,
just smaller.
Again, exactly what you would expect from what is
known and
predicted from existing data, i.e., the IQ of the
smartest half
of all DAFNz is approximately equal to the IQ of the
dumbest half
of all whites (see the DAFN-white IQ bell curves shown
on pg 279, TBC)
that average value is approximately IQ=90 for those
sub-groups.

DAFNz...what Mother_Nature hath genetically created
unequal.
The DoD school resultz simply provide powerful
additional *proof*...

Not to mention that all these students come from
families of similar
"culture" (military culture) and of similar economic
means.

That completely throws the "money makes you smart"
argument out the
window.

Who>s yer daddy, boy?!

King of SCAA

Actually,

You fail to see the difference in the societal structure
of the
military. I was raised in a military family and I had a
family in the
military society.

First, a larger percentage of the families are two-parent
then in the
outside. Next, the behaviour of your family can have a
direct impact
on your career; infractions will be reported to your
commander who
will expect you to get your family in line.

The school systems are better because they don>t have to
worry about
the violence that you see in urban schools; I would
imagine that if
you looked at the scores based upon rank, you would even
see an even
smaller gap.

Your blind contention that genetics is a large determining
factor, is
simply based upon your desperate need for these facts to
exactly fit
how you see the world.

Granted, I agree with you that the Black community is
doing extremely
poorly in many of the educational metrics - I just don>t
see genetics
as an overriding factor in the equation...

dratster

It is amazing that you can type so well being blind like you
are.

E.B.
[/quote]
Considering that considerable medical research has been done
regarding this subject, & the vast majority of it indicates
that genetics, while *a* factor, is not *the* main factor in
intelligence, if there *are* glaucoma or cataracts involved
here they>re most likely not on his part. :) BTW, to answer
the next question, no, I>m not a doctor -- I>m a researcher
specializing in medical informatics & analysis; I>ve been
doing it for a living for a little over 25 years now, so I>d
say the odds are pretty fair that I know a little more about
the body of published medical literature than most people. <grin>

Bill

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makemyday@worldnet.att.net wrote in
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To enter the military, an equivalent minimum IQ of
85
is required.
This means half of all DAFNz are excluded - the
DUMBEST half.
This requirement excludes only about 15% of
whites.

Let>s see how the *children* of the SMARTEST half
of
all DAFNz
perform in Dept of Defense schools for military
dependents:

http://www.aypf.org/forumbriefs/2002/fb042602.htm
************************** excerpt
**********************************
School Success and Minority Student Achievement in
Department of
Defense Schools -- A Forum Brief ? April 26,
2002

[...] The NAEP results showed that African
American...students
enrolled in Department of Defense (DoD) schools in
the
United States
and abroad ranked No. 1 and No. 2 among African
Americans...in the
nation on reading and writing tests.

[...] DoD operates 224 elementary and secondary
schools
(155 are overseas and 69 are in the United States)
that enroll
about 112,000 students. Of the students, 50% are
white, 20% are
African American, 9% Hispanic, 15% Bi/Multi
Racial,
and 6% Asian.

[...] The researchers...reported that the gap
between
the performance
of white students and that of
African-American...was
narrower than
this gap in the 50 states.

************************************************************
***********

The report tries to suggest that the gap reduction
is
due to various
quallities of the DoD schools, as if DoD knows
something the rest of
the nation>s educators don>t. But in fact, the
resultz are *exactly*
what you would expect when you compare the
*children*
of all DAFNz,
with the *children* of the *Smartest_Half* of all
DAFNz.

Since intellectual performance is highly genetic
in
origin, the
children of the smartest parents in a group are
going
to do better
than the children of all parents in that group.
Not
rocket science,
just exactly what would be expected from the
genetics.

And, of course, the DAFN/white *gap* is still
there,
just smaller.
Again, exactly what you would expect from what is
known and
predicted from existing data, i.e., the IQ of the
smartest half
of all DAFNz is approximately equal to the IQ of
the
dumbest half
of all whites (see the DAFN-white IQ bell curves
shown
on pg 279, TBC)
that average value is approximately IQ=90 for
those
sub-groups.

DAFNz...what Mother_Nature hath genetically
created
unequal.
The DoD school resultz simply provide powerful
additional *proof*...

Not to mention that all these students come from
families of similar
"culture" (military culture) and of similar economic
means.

That completely throws the "money makes you smart"
argument out the
window.

Who>s yer daddy, boy?!

King of SCAA

Actually,

You fail to see the difference in the societal
structure
of the
military. I was raised in a military family and I had
a
family in the
military society.

First, a larger percentage of the families are
two-parent
then in the
outside. Next, the behaviour of your family can have a
direct impact
on your career; infractions will be reported to your
commander who
will expect you to get your family in line.

The school systems are better because they don>t have
to
worry about
the violence that you see in urban schools; I would
imagine that if
you looked at the scores based upon rank, you would
even
see an even
smaller gap.

Your blind contention that genetics is a large
determining
factor, is
simply based upon your desperate need for these facts
to
exactly fit
how you see the world.

Granted, I agree with you that the Black community is
doing extremely
poorly in many of the educational metrics - I just
don>t
see genetics
as an overriding factor in the equation...

dratster

It is amazing that you can type so well being blind like
you
are.

E.B.

Considering that considerable medical research has been
done
regarding this subject, & the vast majority of it
indicates
that genetics, while *a* factor, is not *the* main factor
in
intelligence, if there *are* glaucoma or cataracts
involved
here they>re most likely not on his part. :) BTW, to
answer
the next question, no, I>m not a doctor -- I>m a
researcher
specializing in medical informatics & analysis; I>ve been
doing it for a living for a little over 25 years now, so
I>d
say the odds are pretty fair that I know a little more
about
the body of published medical literature than most people.
grin

Bill
[/quote]
If any of that medical literature about IQ and genetics is
on the net, why not give us a sample?

E.B.

Guest

Eustace Bagg wrote:
[quote]
"bnichols" <top2@cox.net> wrote in message

Considering that considerable medical research has been
done
regarding this subject, & the vast majority of it
indicates
that genetics, while *a* factor, is not *the* main factor
in
intelligence, if there *are* glaucoma or cataracts
involved
here they>re most likely not on his part. :) BTW, to
answer
the next question, no, I>m not a doctor -- I>m a
researcher
specializing in medical informatics & analysis; I>ve been
doing it for a living for a little over 25 years now, so
I>d
say the odds are pretty fair that I know a little more
about
the body of published medical literature than most people.
grin

Bill

If any of that medical literature about IQ and genetics is
on the net, why not give us a sample?
[/quote]
Intelligence and behavior are the focus of Psychology. The
Psychologists' equivalent of the AMA (Physicians) is the APA
(American Psychological Association). The latest research
(peer-reviewed literature) on genetic connections between intelligence
and behavior was recently published in book form: "Behavioral Genetics
in the Postgenomic Era."

The best estimates (Page 143) are that *adult* IQ is 85% genetic.
Genetic links to aggressive behavior and criminality have also
been found (Pages 75,369).

Genetic determination of intelligence (ability to learn) and
behavioral traits is well-established in dogs (800 years of
breeding experience). This is not questioned by anyone.
Why should it be any different in humans?

Molecular biology and genomic analyses are rapidly accumulating
solid evidence, to back up (for example) a hundred years of IQ test
and 40 years of SAT test results. Even the most PC observers
will not be able to deny the genetic basis much longer....

Cast Iron · Guest

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makemyday@worldnet.att.net wrote in
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@worldnet.att.net:

To enter the military, an equivalent minimum IQ of 85
is required.
This means half of all DAFNz are excluded - the
DUMBEST half.
This requirement excludes only about 15% of whites.

Let>s see how the *children* of the SMARTEST half of
all DAFNz
perform in Dept of Defense schools for military
dependents:

http://www.aypf.org/forumbriefs/2002/fb042602.htm
************************** excerpt
**********************************
School Success and Minority Student Achievement in
Department of
Defense Schools -- A Forum Brief ? April 26, 2002

[...] The NAEP results showed that African
American...students
enrolled in Department of Defense (DoD) schools in the
United States
and abroad ranked No. 1 and No. 2 among African
Americans...in the
nation on reading and writing tests.

[...] DoD operates 224 elementary and secondary
schools
(155 are overseas and 69 are in the United States)
that enroll
about 112,000 students. Of the students, 50% are
white, 20% are
African American, 9% Hispanic, 15% Bi/Multi Racial,
and 6% Asian.

[...] The researchers...reported that the gap between
the performance
of white students and that of African-American...was
narrower than
this gap in the 50 states.

************************************************************
***********

The report tries to suggest that the gap reduction is
due to various
quallities of the DoD schools, as if DoD knows
something the rest of
the nation>s educators don>t. But in fact, the
resultz are *exactly*
what you would expect when you compare the *children*
of all DAFNz,
with the *children* of the *Smartest_Half* of all
DAFNz.

Since intellectual performance is highly genetic in
origin, the
children of the smartest parents in a group are going
to do better
than the children of all parents in that group. Not
rocket science,
just exactly what would be expected from the genetics.

And, of course, the DAFN/white *gap* is still there,
just smaller.
Again, exactly what you would expect from what is
known and
predicted from existing data, i.e., the IQ of the
smartest half
of all DAFNz is approximately equal to the IQ of the
dumbest half
of all whites (see the DAFN-white IQ bell curves shown
on pg 279, TBC)
that average value is approximately IQ=90 for those
sub-groups.

DAFNz...what Mother_Nature hath genetically created
unequal.
The DoD school resultz simply provide powerful
additional *proof*...

Not to mention that all these students come from
families of similar
"culture" (military culture) and of similar economic
means.

That completely throws the "money makes you smart"
argument out the
window.

Who>s yer daddy, boy?!

King of SCAA

Actually,

You fail to see the difference in the societal structure
of the
military. I was raised in a military family and I had a
family in the
military society.

First, a larger percentage of the families are two-parent
then in the
outside. Next, the behaviour of your family can have a
direct impact
on your career; infractions will be reported to your
commander who
will expect you to get your family in line.

The school systems are better because they don>t have to
worry about
the violence that you see in urban schools; I would
imagine that if
you looked at the scores based upon rank, you would even
see an even
smaller gap.

Your blind contention that genetics is a large determining
factor, is
simply based upon your desperate need for these facts to
exactly fit
how you see the world.

Granted, I agree with you that the Black community is
doing extremely
poorly in many of the educational metrics - I just don>t
see genetics
as an overriding factor in the equation...

dratster

It is amazing that you can type so well being blind like you
are.

E.B.

Considering that considerable medical research has been done
regarding this subject, & the vast majority of it indicates
that genetics, while *a* factor, is not *the* main factor in
intelligence, if there *are* glaucoma or cataracts involved
here they>re most likely not on his part. :) BTW, to answer
the next question, no, I>m not a doctor -- I>m a researcher
specializing in medical informatics & analysis; I>ve been
doing it for a living for a little over 25 years now, so I>d
say the odds are pretty fair that I know a little more about
the body of published medical literature than most people. <grin
[/quote]
Perhaps. But you could also be one of those fools who let>s his biases
get in the way of his objectivity. Unfortunately, there are too many
people like that in this politically correct day in age.

Let>s say for example, that you had concrete, irrefutable evidence that
one group of people (which group, it doesn>t matter now) was less capable
intellectually, and more prone to violence, than another group.

Would you publicize that? Would you be willing to destroy your career
for the truth? Or would you suppress such findings because of political
correctness?

Of course, this is a hypothetical, but we all know people like to
suppress data they find damaging or contrary to their political views.

Afterall, all emotions and thoughts are chemical reactions in the brain,
right? And we all know levels and balances of these chemicals are
influenced (determined?) by genetics, right?

Who>s yer daddy, boy?!

King of SCAA

[quote]
Bill
[/quote]

David Richardson · Guest

TLD <alkjkjskjslks> wrote in message news:<950876e80af759d3932592914f4f8261@news.teranews.com>...
[quote]How many years ago was this? Do things change with time?
[/quote]
I finished active duty in 1987, reserves in 1993, but still a part of
the inactive reserves. Plus my younger sister is a LTCol in the
military and I other relatives still serving currently. Most of my
longest known friends are either retired or active military.

[quote]
First, a larger percentage of the families are two-parent then in the
outside. Next, the behaviour of your family can have a direct impact
on your career; infractions will be reported to your commander who
will expect you to get your family in line.

So, basically, in the military, the parents care about their children and
how they behave.
[/quote]
And I am not saying that non-military children careless, but it is
rare that they would lose their jobs because of something that their
children did. I have Chaptered (put soldiers out of the military
-both White and Black) because the inability to handle family
problems.

[quote]This would not be out of line with the "blacks in the military are
more
intelligent than the civilian blacks" theory.
[/quote]
Only that you have skewed the results by exclusion. But it still does
NOT necessarily prove your premise.

[quote]Rank? What would rank have to do with whether or not a student gets an
answer correct on a test.
[/quote]
Well, following your logic, they still seperate living quarters/areas
for officers/senior NCOs and junior NCOs. As you go higher in rank
you would expect more people with higher IQs. Lower IQs are excluded
from these ranks because inability to make the appropriate test
scores.

So, under your "theory" you should see a smaller gap.

[quote]Again, you are using status, in this case rank versus your usual economic
argument, as an explanation of academic performance
[/quote]
Rank must be earned and part of the earning involves passing
proficiency tests. I would say that it is harder to move up in rank
in the military than it is in civilian life.

Again, economic status might be an indicator of ones ability to
translate intelligence into good performance with should cause an
elevation in one>s economic status...
[quote]
I>ve known rich kids who flunked out of college. I>ve known poor kids
who excelled.

The relationship between status and peformance would be very weak at
best, and *not* statistically significant.
[/quote]
Ah, such scholarship.... when are you publishing your definitive paper
on eugenics...
[quote]

Your blind contention that genetics is a large determining factor, is
simply based upon your desperate need for these facts to exactly fit
how you see the world.

True or false:

There can be intelligent kids and stupid kids within the same family.
[/quote]
True, but how does that in itself prove that genetics is a factor?
There has been tooooo much reach on birth position as a contributing
factor to future sucess/socialization....

[quote]Emotions and thoughts are chemical reactions in the brain.
Too simplistic...

Genetics can play a role in chemical balances in the brain (depression,
for example, is known to have a hereditary component).

Therefore, genetics plays a role in intelligence.
[/quote]
And I NEVER said that it does NOT play a role, but I am definitely
not convinced that it plays an overwhelming role. Not at the level
that you want it to be to convince you of the world view that you
have...

[quote]
(I can expand this reasoning to be more encompassing if you like.)

Granted, I agree with you that the Black community is doing extremely
poorly in many of the educational metrics - I just don>t see genetics
as an overriding factor in the equation...

What is intelligence?

Language skills

Pattern recognition

Problem solving/logical reasoning skills

...and more.

Blacks perform nearly as well as whites in the language area. But lag
dramatically in the other two areas mentioned above.
[/quote]
I have done exceptionally well in all of these areas as have other
people in my family. And I have seen plenty of other Blacks who have
done as well also. This tends to indicate that perhaps there are
environment and social factors as well that affect ability
[quote]
How can blacks achieve parity (nearly) with whites in one area, and lag
in the other if there isn>t a genetic component?

Again, remember that the thought process is a chemical reaction in the
brain, and genetics influences these chemical reactions and amounts of
chemicals.

This also explains negro>s violent tendencies--impulse control is an
emotion, and emotions are chemical reactions which are influenced by
genetics...and so on.
[/quote]
And if then you would violence at a GREATER level than you see it
today and it does not even approach the types and levels of violence
that we have seen in the world.

Dratster

David Richardson · Guest

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To enter the military, an equivalent minimum IQ of 85
is required.
This means half of all DAFNz are excluded - the
DUMBEST half.
This requirement excludes only about 15% of whites.

Let>s see how the *children* of the SMARTEST half of
all DAFNz
perform in Dept of Defense schools for military
dependents:

http://www.aypf.org/forumbriefs/2002/fb042602.htm
************************** excerpt
**********************************
School Success and Minority Student Achievement in
Department of
Defense Schools -- A Forum Brief ? April 26, 2002

[...] The NAEP results showed that African
American...students
enrolled in Department of Defense (DoD) schools in the
United States
and abroad ranked No. 1 and No. 2 among African
Americans...in the
nation on reading and writing tests.

[...] DoD operates 224 elementary and secondary
schools
(155 are overseas and 69 are in the United States)
that enroll
about 112,000 students. Of the students, 50% are
white, 20% are
African American, 9% Hispanic, 15% Bi/Multi Racial,
and 6% Asian.

[...] The researchers...reported that the gap between
the performance
of white students and that of African-American...was
narrower than
this gap in the 50 states.

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The report tries to suggest that the gap reduction is
due to various
quallities of the DoD schools, as if DoD knows
something the rest of
the nation>s educators don>t. But in fact, the
resultz are *exactly*
what you would expect when you compare the *children*
of all DAFNz,
with the *children* of the *Smartest_Half* of all
DAFNz.

Since intellectual performance is highly genetic in
origin, the
children of the smartest parents in a group are going
to do better
than the children of all parents in that group. Not
rocket science,
just exactly what would be expected from the genetics.

And, of course, the DAFN/white *gap* is still there,
just smaller.
Again, exactly what you would expect from what is
known and
predicted from existing data, i.e., the IQ of the
smartest half
of all DAFNz is approximately equal to the IQ of the
dumbest half
of all whites (see the DAFN-white IQ bell curves shown
on pg 279, TBC)
that average value is approximately IQ=90 for those
sub-groups.

DAFNz...what Mother_Nature hath genetically created
unequal.
The DoD school resultz simply provide powerful
additional *proof*...

Not to mention that all these students come from
families of similar
"culture" (military culture) and of similar economic
means.

That completely throws the "money makes you smart"
argument out the
window.

Who>s yer daddy, boy?!

King of SCAA

Actually,

You fail to see the difference in the societal structure
of the
military. I was raised in a military family and I had a
family in the
military society.

First, a larger percentage of the families are two-parent
then in the
outside. Next, the behaviour of your family can have a
direct impact
on your career; infractions will be reported to your
commander who
will expect you to get your family in line.

The school systems are better because they don>t have to
worry about
the violence that you see in urban schools; I would
imagine that if
you looked at the scores based upon rank, you would even
see an even
smaller gap.

Your blind contention that genetics is a large determining
factor, is
simply based upon your desperate need for these facts to
exactly fit
how you see the world.

Granted, I agree with you that the Black community is
doing extremely
poorly in many of the educational metrics - I just don>t
see genetics
as an overriding factor in the equation...

dratster

It is amazing that you can type so well being blind like you
are.
[/quote]
Which is to say that you can offer nothing substantial refute what I
am saying? Or is your "superior mind" just in a resting phase....

dratster


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