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ZB0N0
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 Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:05 am Post subject: Four Reasons Why CO2 Is Not Driving Global Warming |
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July 19, 2008
"There has not been a public debate about the causes of global warming
and most of the public and our decision makers are not aware of the most
basic salient facts:
1. The greenhouse signature is missing. We have been looking and
measuring for years, and cannot find it.
Each possible cause of global warming has a different pattern of where
in the planet the warming occurs first and the most. The signature of an
increased greenhouse effect is a hot spot about 10km up in the
atmosphere over the tropics. We have been measuring the atmosphere for
decades using radiosondes: weather balloons with thermometers that radio
back the temperature as the balloon ascends through the atmosphere. They
show no hot spot. Whatsoever...
2. There is no evidence to support the idea that carbon emissions cause
significant global warming. None. There is plenty of evidence that
global warming has occurred, and theory suggests that carbon emissions
should raise temperatures (though by how much is hotly disputed) but
there are no observations by anyone that implicate carbon emissions as a
significant cause of the recent global warming.
3. The satellites that measure the world>s temperature all say that the
warming trend ended in 2001, and that the temperature has dropped about
0.6C in the past year (to the temperature of 1980). Land-based
temperature readings are corrupted by the "urban heat island" effect:
urban areas encroaching on thermometer stations warm the micro-climate
around the thermometer, due to vegetation changes, concrete, cars,
houses. Satellite data is the only temperature data we can trust, but it
only goes back to 1979. NASA reports only land-based data, and reports a
modest warming trend and recent cooling. The other three global
temperature records use a mix of satellite and land measurements, or
satellite only, and they all show no warming since 2001 and a recent
cooling.
4. The new ice cores show that in the past six global warmings over the
past half a million years, the temperature rises occurred on average 800
years before the accompanying rise in atmospheric carbon. Which says
something important about which was cause and which was effect.
None of these points are controversial. The alarmist scientists agree
with them, though they would dispute their relevance."
http://www.jennifermarohasy.com/blog/archives/003267.html
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Warmest Regards
Bonzo
"America in Longest Warm Spell Since 1776; Temperature Line Records a
25-year Rise" New York Times, March 27, 1933 |
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Tartarus
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:05 am Post subject: Re: Four Reasons Why CO2 Is Not Driving Global Warming |
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On Jul 20, 11:08 pm, "ZB0N0" <ZB...@w00w00.com> wrote:
[quote]July 19, 2008
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A blog huh? That>s pretty convincing!
You poor schnook!
Tartarus |
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Tom Gardner
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:05 am Post subject: Re: Four Reasons Why CO2 Is Not Driving Global Warming |
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"ZB0N0" <ZB0N0@w00w00.com> wrote in message news:48842c8c$3@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
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"Tartarus" <tartarus@rome.com> wrote in message
news:9d204e26-3972-4da1-a0f2-b2ae67020be0@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 20, 11:08 pm, "ZB0N0" <ZB...@w00w00.com> wrote:
July 19, 2008
A blog huh? That>s pretty convincing!
***************
So which of the four FACTS do you dispute?
Warmest Regards
Bonzo
[/quote]
It doesn>t matter, ANY information contrary to the belief is wrong and
dismissed. Nothing will change the minds of the AGW folks, they are as vested
as if they were going to get a cut of the profits from the Prophets. (boy, are
they in for a shock!) |
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ZB0N0
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:05 am Post subject: Re: Four Reasons Why CO2 Is Not Driving Global Warming |
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"Tartarus" <tartarus@rome.com> wrote in message
news:9d204e26-3972-4da1-a0f2-b2ae67020be0@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 20, 11:08 pm, "ZB0N0" <ZB...@w00w00.com> wrote:
[quote]July 19, 2008
A blog huh? That>s pretty convincing![/quote]
***************
So which of the four FACTS do you dispute?
Warmest Regards
Bonzo
"Attributing global climate change to human CO2 production is akin to
trying to diagnose an automotive problem by ignoring the engine
(analogous to the Sun in the climate system) and the transmission (water
vapour) and instead focusing entirely, not on one nut on a rear wheel,
which would be analogous to total CO2, but on one thread on that nut,
which represents the human contribution." Dr. Timothy Ball, Chairman of
the Natural Resources Stewardship Project (NRSP.com), Former Professor
Of Climatology, University of Winnipeg |
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ZB0N0
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:05 am Post subject: Re: Four Reasons Why CO2 Is Not Driving Global Warming |
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"Tartarus" <tartarus@rome.com> wrote in message
news:9d204e26-3972-4da1-a0f2-b2ae67020be0@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 20, 11:08 pm, "ZB0N0" <ZB...@w00w00.com> wrote:
[quote]July 19, 2008
A blog huh? That>s pretty convincing![/quote]
***************
So which of the four FACTS do you dispute?
Warmest Regards
Bonzo
"Attributing global climate change to human CO2 production is akin to
trying to diagnose an automotive problem by ignoring the engine
(analogous to the Sun in the climate system) and the transmission (water
vapour) and instead focusing entirely, not on one nut on a rear wheel,
which would be analogous to total CO2, but on one thread on that nut,
which represents the human contribution." Dr. Timothy Ball, Chairman of
the Natural Resources Stewardship Project (NRSP.com), Former Professor
Of Climatology, University of Winnipeg |
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Catoni
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:01 am Post subject: Re: Four Reasons Why CO2 Is Not Driving Global Warming |
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Republican Liar says:
"There are no "facts" to dispute, nutter."
Republican Liar has nothing. |
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Peter Muehlbauer
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: Four Reasons Why CO2 Is Not Driving Global Warming |
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Tartarus <tartarus@rome.com> wrote:
[quote]On Jul 20, 11:08 pm, "ZB0N0" <ZB...@w00w00.com> wrote:
July 19, 2008
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A blog huh? That>s pretty convincing!
You poor schnook!
Tartarus
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A stupid one sees the blog, an intelligent one reads the content. |
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Peter Muehlbauer
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: Four Reasons Why CO2 Is Not Driving Global Warming |
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"Republican Liar" <Repug@uLiars.moc> wrote:
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"ZB0N0" <ZB0N0@w00w00.com> wrote in message
news:48842c8c$5@dnews.tpgi.com.au
"Tartarus" <tartarus@rome.com> wrote in message
news:9d204e26-3972-4da1-a0f2-b2ae67020be0@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 20, 11:08 pm, "ZB0N0" <ZB...@w00w00.com> wrote:
July 19, 2008
A blog huh? That>s pretty convincing!
***************
So which of the four FACTS do you dispute?
There are no "facts" to dispute, nutter.
[/quote]
Perhaps you don>t see them in your little world of AGW.
Take off your blinkers and get some brain. |
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Ouroboros_Rex
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: Four Reasons Why CO2 Is Not Driving Global Warming |
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ZB0N0 wrote:
[quote]July 19, 2008
"There has not been a public debate about the causes of global warming
and most of the public and our decision makers are not aware of the
most basic salient facts:
1. The greenhouse signature is missing. We have been looking and
measuring for years, and cannot find it.
[/quote]
Simply a ridiculous lie, as anyone who reads this newsgroup knows by now. |
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Ouroboros_Rex
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: Four Reasons Why CO2 Is Not Driving Global Warming |
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Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
[quote]"Republican Liar" <Repug@uLiars.moc> wrote:
"ZB0N0" <ZB0N0@w00w00.com> wrote in message
news:48842c8c$5@dnews.tpgi.com.au
"Tartarus" <tartarus@rome.com> wrote in message
news:9d204e26-3972-4da1-a0f2-b2ae67020be0@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 20, 11:08 pm, "ZB0N0" <ZB...@w00w00.com> wrote:
July 19, 2008
A blog huh? That>s pretty convincing!
***************
So which of the four FACTS do you dispute?
There are no "facts" to dispute, nutter.
Perhaps you don>t see them in your little world of AGW.
Take off your blinkers and get some brain.
[/quote]
As lying petey knows, this article was debunked here last week with two
cites from the journal _Science_. |
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Ouroboros_Rex
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: Four Reasons Why CO2 Is Not Driving Global Warming |
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Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
[quote]Tartarus <tartarus@rome.com> wrote:
On Jul 20, 11:08 pm, "ZB0N0" <ZB...@w00w00.com> wrote:
July 19, 2008
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A blog huh? That>s pretty convincing!
You poor schnook!
Tartarus
A stupid one sees the blog, an intelligent one reads the content.
[/quote]
As lying petey knows, this article was debunked here last week with two
cites from the journal _Science_. |
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V for Vendicar
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: Four Reasons Why CO2 Is Not Driving Global Warming |
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"ZB0N0" <ZB0N0@w00w00.com> wrote
[quote]1. The greenhouse signature is missing. We have been looking and
measuring for years, and cannot find it.
[/quote]
More Mindless Claptrap from Bonzo. There is no such thing as a
"greenhoues signature".
"ZB0N0" <ZB0N0@w00w00.com> wrote
[quote]2. There is no evidence to support the idea that carbon emissions cause
significant global warming. None.
[/quote]
Yup, once you ignore all the evidence... the temperature measurements, the
CO2 measurements, the Solar
measurements, the bore hole measurements, the baloon measurements, the
satellite measurements, there just isn>t any evidence.
BONZO = MMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOONNNNNNNN
[quote]3. The satellites that measure the world>s temperature all say that the
warming trend ended in 2001
[/quote]
Satellites don>t measure surface temperatures.
BONZO = MMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOONNNNN
[quote]4. The new ice cores show that in the past six global warmings over the
past half a million years
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Ya, they were the end of the last 6 ice ages.
Ice ages end with an abrupt upshoot in temperature followed by a slow,
uneven cool down. Which
is exactly what we had expeienced up to about 150 years ago when the current
spike in global temperature took place coincident with the emission of vast
quantities of CO2.
BONZO = MMMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOONNNNNNN |
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V for Vendicar
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: Four Reasons Why CO2 Is Not Driving Global Warming |
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"ZB0N0" <ZB0N0@w00w00.com> wrote
[quote]So which of the four FACTS do you dispute?
[/quote]
All of them. You have no facts.
Lies are your stock and trade. |
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V for Vendicar
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: Four Reasons Why CO2 Is Not Driving Global Warming |
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"Peter Muehlbauer" <spamtrap.AT@AT.frankenexpress.de> wrote
[quote]Perhaps you don>t see them in your little world of AGW.
[/quote]
RepubluiKKKans don>t live in a Reality based community.
Self deceit is the hallmark of the RepubliKKKunt mind. |
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V for Vendicar
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: Four Reasons Why CO2 Is Not Driving Global Warming |
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"Catoni" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]The Republican Liar has nothing.
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Correct. But then RepuboiKKKans never do.
And as we all know, RepubliKKKans and Libertairans are congential liars.
Just like You Catoni. |
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