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Catoni · Guest

Why would anybody want to listen to V for Vendicar? Nudds is a run-
away ex-pat American citizen that now lives in Hamilton, Ontario,
Canada working as a public school janitor.
He is a troll with a long history of attacking Libertarians and
Conservatives on the internet. He likes nothing better the
confrontation and dragging people through the mud...

Vendicar Decarian ...... One of the leaders of the Troll
Party.... ha ... ha ..... ha....

Run-away American. Hates his own country...

And he knows nothing of Libertarianism.

Catoni · Guest

Hey Vendi !!! Did you ever go on that trip with Naomi and Bernie
in the Lear? Did she let you see her bush to help you get your mind of
the other Bush??

Ha... ha... ha... ha.,.. ha... . :) :)

Catoni · Guest

Hey Vendi !!!
Did you ever take that trip with Naomi and
Bernie to Iraq and Afghanistan to renew the broom contracts? Did she
let you look at her bush to help you get your mind off the other
Bush???
I imagine she helped you get a good supply of brooms right Vendi???
Sorry to hear that they turned you down for that porno movie.
Something about your shortcummings. But you have a few other
possibilities right? Bernie might help you out with that if you talk
to him. I heard that you have always had a great desire to get a break
in that industry..

Best of luck Vendie.. :)

V for Vendicar · Guest

Observation, out of 20 points listed below. Libertarian Cato is found to
have lied in every instance.

Concludion. Libertarian Cato is a Liar.

Hardly a surprise as I have never encounterd a Libertairan who wasn>t a
perpetual liar.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 1
Sea level "rising 6 m"
[/quote]
Never stated. Cato>s First lie.

[quote]ERROR 2
Pacific islands "drowning"
[/quote]
Stated in the future tense, not the current tense. Cato>s Second Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 3
Thermohaline circulation "stopping"
[/quote]
Stated as a possibility - and correctly so. Cato>s Third Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 4
CO2 "driving temperature"
[/quote]
It does. Cato>s Forth Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 5
Gore says "global warming" has been melting the snows of Mount
Kilimanjaro in Africa. It is not.
[/quote]
One researcher claims otherwise. The rest side with Gore. Cato>s Fifth
lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 6
Lake Chad "drying up" Gore says "global warming" dried up Lake Chad in
Africa. It did not. Over-extraction of water and changing agricultural
patterns dried the lake, which was also dry in 8500BC, 5500BC, 1000BC
and 100BC.
[/quote]
Which is Lie number 6 for Cato.

This is what Gore says about Lake Chad...

"Unbelievable tragedies have been unfolding there and there are a lot
reasons for it. Darfur and Niger are among those tragedies. One of the
factors that has been compounding this is the lack of rainfall and the
increasing drought. This is Lake Chad, once one of the largest lakes in the
world. It has dried up over the last few decades to almost nothing."

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 7
Hurricane Katrina "man made"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 7 for Cato

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 8
Polar bears "dying"
[/quote]
Which is lie #8 for Cato

This is what Gore said about Polar Bears.

"So there is a faster build up of heat here at the North Pole in the Arctic
Ocean and the Arctic generally than any where else on the planet. That>s not
good for creatures like polar bears that depend on the ice. A new scientific
study shows that for the first time they>re finding polar bears that have
actually drowned, swimming long distances up to 60 miles to find the ice.
They did not find that before."

Which is correct.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 9
Gore says coral reefs are "bleaching" because of "global warming."
They are not. There was some bleaching in 1998, but this was caused by
the exceptional El Nino Southern Oscillation that year.
[/quote]
Which is error #9 from Cato.

And what is El Nino? A Warming of the Pacific surface waters.

So acccording to Cato, here, it isn>t the warming of the earth>s oceans
that causes coral bleaching, in th pacific, it>s the rise of pacific ocean
temperatures.

MMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 10
100 ppmv of CO2 "melting mile-thick ice"
[/quote]
And that is lie 10 out of 10 for Cato.

The phrase "melting mile-thick ice." never appears in Gores Documentary.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 11
Hurricane Caterina "manmade"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 11 for Cato A repeat of Lie #7

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 12
Japanese typhoons "a new record"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 12 for Cato.

Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 13
Hurricanes "getting stronger"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 13 for Cato
..
Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 14
Big storm insurances losses "increasing"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 14 for Cato
Weather-Related Insurance Losses Doubled in '07
30 Dec 07
Losses to insurers from natural disasters nearly doubled this year to just
below $30 billion globally after an unusually quiet 2006, a leading
reinsurer said, from winter storms in Europe, flooding in Britain and
wildfires in the U.S.

http://www.desmogblog.com/weather-related-insurance-losses-doubled-in-07

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 15
Mumbai "flooding"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 15 for Cato.
Mumbai did flood.

The Maharashtra floods of 2005 refers to the flooding of many parts of the
Indian state of Maharashtra including large areas of the metropolis Mumbai,
a city located on the coast of the Arabian Sea, on the western coast of
India, in which at least 1,000 people died. It occurred just one month after
similar flooding in Gujarat.
The floods were caused by the eighth heaviest ever recorded 24-hour rainfall
figure of 944 mm (37.2 inches) which lashed the metropolis on 26 July 2005,
and intermittently continued for the next day. 644 mm (25.4 inches) was
received within the 12-hr period between 8am and 8pm. Torrential rainfall
continued for the next week.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 16
Severe tornadoes "more frequent"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 16 for Cato.
Reconstructing the frequency of tornado occurrence in the central United
States

Matthew J. Menne, NOAA/NESDIS/NCDC, Asheville, NC

Evidence is presented that the apparent decrease in strong-to-violent
tornado frequency since 1950 implied by the official storm archive is
inconsistent with the radiosonde record. Abrupt changes in the bias of the
reconstruction, that is, the ratio of the number of tornado soundings
predicted to the number observed, are shown to be coincident with changes in
storm classification procedures that occurred during the 1970s and the early
1990s. Rather than a decrease in frequency since the 1950s, the
reconstruction suggests that supercell tornado frequency has been reasonably
stationary until the 1990s when some increase in frequency is suggested.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 17
The sun "heats the Arctic ocean"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 17 for Cato.

The sun does heat the arctic ocean from the moment the sun rises over the
arctic ocean.

MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 18
Arctic "warming fastest" Gore says the Arctic has been warming faster
than the rest of the planet. It is not.
[/quote]
Which is lie #18 by Cato.
Arctic warming at twice global rate
Shaoni Bhattacharya

17:58 02 November 2004
NewScientist.com news service
Global warming in the Arctic is happening now, warns the most comprehensive
scientific report to date. The reports concludes that the northern ice cap
is warming at twice the global rate and that this will lead to serious
consequences for the planet.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6615-arctic-warming-at-twice-global-rate.html

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 19
Greenland ice sheet "unstable"
[/quote]

Which is lie #19 by Cato.

The word "unstable" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth".

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 20
Himalayan glacial melt waters "failing"
[/quote]
Which is lie #20 by Cato.

The word "failing" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth."

V for Vendicar · Guest

Observation, out of 20 points listed below. Libertarian Cato is found to
have lied in every instance.

Concludion. Libertarian Cato is a Liar.

Hardly a surprise as I have never encounterd a Libertairan who wasn>t a
perpetual liar.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 1
Sea level "rising 6 m"
[/quote]
Never stated. Cato>s First lie.

[quote]ERROR 2
Pacific islands "drowning"
[/quote]
Stated in the future tense, not the current tense. Cato>s Second Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 3
Thermohaline circulation "stopping"
[/quote]
Stated as a possibility - and correctly so. Cato>s Third Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 4
CO2 "driving temperature"
[/quote]
It does. Cato>s Forth Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 5
Gore says "global warming" has been melting the snows of Mount
Kilimanjaro in Africa. It is not.
[/quote]
One researcher claims otherwise. The rest side with Gore. Cato>s Fifth
lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 6
Lake Chad "drying up" Gore says "global warming" dried up Lake Chad in
Africa. It did not. Over-extraction of water and changing agricultural
patterns dried the lake, which was also dry in 8500BC, 5500BC, 1000BC
and 100BC.
[/quote]
Which is Lie number 6 for Cato.

This is what Gore says about Lake Chad...

"Unbelievable tragedies have been unfolding there and there are a lot
reasons for it. Darfur and Niger are among those tragedies. One of the
factors that has been compounding this is the lack of rainfall and the
increasing drought. This is Lake Chad, once one of the largest lakes in the
world. It has dried up over the last few decades to almost nothing."

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 7
Hurricane Katrina "man made"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 7 for Cato

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 8
Polar bears "dying"
[/quote]
Which is lie #8 for Cato

This is what Gore said about Polar Bears.

"So there is a faster build up of heat here at the North Pole in the Arctic
Ocean and the Arctic generally than any where else on the planet. That>s not
good for creatures like polar bears that depend on the ice. A new scientific
study shows that for the first time they>re finding polar bears that have
actually drowned, swimming long distances up to 60 miles to find the ice.
They did not find that before."

Which is correct.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 9
Gore says coral reefs are "bleaching" because of "global warming."
They are not. There was some bleaching in 1998, but this was caused by
the exceptional El Nino Southern Oscillation that year.
[/quote]
Which is error #9 from Cato.

And what is El Nino? A Warming of the Pacific surface waters.

So acccording to Cato, here, it isn>t the warming of the earth>s oceans
that causes coral bleaching, in th pacific, it>s the rise of pacific ocean
temperatures.

MMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 10
100 ppmv of CO2 "melting mile-thick ice"
[/quote]
And that is lie 10 out of 10 for Cato.

The phrase "melting mile-thick ice." never appears in Gores Documentary.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 11
Hurricane Caterina "manmade"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 11 for Cato A repeat of Lie #7

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 12
Japanese typhoons "a new record"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 12 for Cato.

Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 13
Hurricanes "getting stronger"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 13 for Cato
..
Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 14
Big storm insurances losses "increasing"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 14 for Cato
Weather-Related Insurance Losses Doubled in '07
30 Dec 07
Losses to insurers from natural disasters nearly doubled this year to just
below $30 billion globally after an unusually quiet 2006, a leading
reinsurer said, from winter storms in Europe, flooding in Britain and
wildfires in the U.S.

http://www.desmogblog.com/weather-related-insurance-losses-doubled-in-07

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 15
Mumbai "flooding"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 15 for Cato.
Mumbai did flood.

The Maharashtra floods of 2005 refers to the flooding of many parts of the
Indian state of Maharashtra including large areas of the metropolis Mumbai,
a city located on the coast of the Arabian Sea, on the western coast of
India, in which at least 1,000 people died. It occurred just one month after
similar flooding in Gujarat.
The floods were caused by the eighth heaviest ever recorded 24-hour rainfall
figure of 944 mm (37.2 inches) which lashed the metropolis on 26 July 2005,
and intermittently continued for the next day. 644 mm (25.4 inches) was
received within the 12-hr period between 8am and 8pm. Torrential rainfall
continued for the next week.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 16
Severe tornadoes "more frequent"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 16 for Cato.
Reconstructing the frequency of tornado occurrence in the central United
States

Matthew J. Menne, NOAA/NESDIS/NCDC, Asheville, NC

Evidence is presented that the apparent decrease in strong-to-violent
tornado frequency since 1950 implied by the official storm archive is
inconsistent with the radiosonde record. Abrupt changes in the bias of the
reconstruction, that is, the ratio of the number of tornado soundings
predicted to the number observed, are shown to be coincident with changes in
storm classification procedures that occurred during the 1970s and the early
1990s. Rather than a decrease in frequency since the 1950s, the
reconstruction suggests that supercell tornado frequency has been reasonably
stationary until the 1990s when some increase in frequency is suggested.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 17
The sun "heats the Arctic ocean"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 17 for Cato.

The sun does heat the arctic ocean from the moment the sun rises over the
arctic ocean.

MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 18
Arctic "warming fastest" Gore says the Arctic has been warming faster
than the rest of the planet. It is not.
[/quote]
Which is lie #18 by Cato.
Arctic warming at twice global rate
Shaoni Bhattacharya

17:58 02 November 2004
NewScientist.com news service
Global warming in the Arctic is happening now, warns the most comprehensive
scientific report to date. The reports concludes that the northern ice cap
is warming at twice the global rate and that this will lead to serious
consequences for the planet.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6615-arctic-warming-at-twice-global-rate.html

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 19
Greenland ice sheet "unstable"
[/quote]

Which is lie #19 by Cato.

The word "unstable" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth".

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 20
Himalayan glacial melt waters "failing"
[/quote]
Which is lie #20 by Cato.

The word "failing" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth."

V for Vendicar · Guest

Observation, out of 20 points listed below. Libertarian Cato is found to
have lied in every instance.

Concludion. Libertarian Cato is a Liar.

Hardly a surprise as I have never encounterd a Libertairan who wasn>t a
perpetual liar.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 1
Sea level "rising 6 m"
[/quote]
Never stated. Cato>s First lie.

[quote]ERROR 2
Pacific islands "drowning"
[/quote]
Stated in the future tense, not the current tense. Cato>s Second Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 3
Thermohaline circulation "stopping"
[/quote]
Stated as a possibility - and correctly so. Cato>s Third Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 4
CO2 "driving temperature"
[/quote]
It does. Cato>s Forth Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 5
Gore says "global warming" has been melting the snows of Mount
Kilimanjaro in Africa. It is not.
[/quote]
One researcher claims otherwise. The rest side with Gore. Cato>s Fifth
lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 6
Lake Chad "drying up" Gore says "global warming" dried up Lake Chad in
Africa. It did not. Over-extraction of water and changing agricultural
patterns dried the lake, which was also dry in 8500BC, 5500BC, 1000BC
and 100BC.
[/quote]
Which is Lie number 6 for Cato.

This is what Gore says about Lake Chad...

"Unbelievable tragedies have been unfolding there and there are a lot
reasons for it. Darfur and Niger are among those tragedies. One of the
factors that has been compounding this is the lack of rainfall and the
increasing drought. This is Lake Chad, once one of the largest lakes in the
world. It has dried up over the last few decades to almost nothing."

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 7
Hurricane Katrina "man made"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 7 for Cato

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 8
Polar bears "dying"
[/quote]
Which is lie #8 for Cato

This is what Gore said about Polar Bears.

"So there is a faster build up of heat here at the North Pole in the Arctic
Ocean and the Arctic generally than any where else on the planet. That>s not
good for creatures like polar bears that depend on the ice. A new scientific
study shows that for the first time they>re finding polar bears that have
actually drowned, swimming long distances up to 60 miles to find the ice.
They did not find that before."

Which is correct.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 9
Gore says coral reefs are "bleaching" because of "global warming."
They are not. There was some bleaching in 1998, but this was caused by
the exceptional El Nino Southern Oscillation that year.
[/quote]
Which is error #9 from Cato.

And what is El Nino? A Warming of the Pacific surface waters.

So acccording to Cato, here, it isn>t the warming of the earth>s oceans
that causes coral bleaching, in th pacific, it>s the rise of pacific ocean
temperatures.

MMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 10
100 ppmv of CO2 "melting mile-thick ice"
[/quote]
And that is lie 10 out of 10 for Cato.

The phrase "melting mile-thick ice." never appears in Gores Documentary.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 11
Hurricane Caterina "manmade"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 11 for Cato A repeat of Lie #7

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 12
Japanese typhoons "a new record"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 12 for Cato.

Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 13
Hurricanes "getting stronger"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 13 for Cato
..
Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 14
Big storm insurances losses "increasing"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 14 for Cato
Weather-Related Insurance Losses Doubled in '07
30 Dec 07
Losses to insurers from natural disasters nearly doubled this year to just
below $30 billion globally after an unusually quiet 2006, a leading
reinsurer said, from winter storms in Europe, flooding in Britain and
wildfires in the U.S.

http://www.desmogblog.com/weather-related-insurance-losses-doubled-in-07

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 15
Mumbai "flooding"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 15 for Cato.
Mumbai did flood.

The Maharashtra floods of 2005 refers to the flooding of many parts of the
Indian state of Maharashtra including large areas of the metropolis Mumbai,
a city located on the coast of the Arabian Sea, on the western coast of
India, in which at least 1,000 people died. It occurred just one month after
similar flooding in Gujarat.
The floods were caused by the eighth heaviest ever recorded 24-hour rainfall
figure of 944 mm (37.2 inches) which lashed the metropolis on 26 July 2005,
and intermittently continued for the next day. 644 mm (25.4 inches) was
received within the 12-hr period between 8am and 8pm. Torrential rainfall
continued for the next week.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 16
Severe tornadoes "more frequent"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 16 for Cato.
Reconstructing the frequency of tornado occurrence in the central United
States

Matthew J. Menne, NOAA/NESDIS/NCDC, Asheville, NC

Evidence is presented that the apparent decrease in strong-to-violent
tornado frequency since 1950 implied by the official storm archive is
inconsistent with the radiosonde record. Abrupt changes in the bias of the
reconstruction, that is, the ratio of the number of tornado soundings
predicted to the number observed, are shown to be coincident with changes in
storm classification procedures that occurred during the 1970s and the early
1990s. Rather than a decrease in frequency since the 1950s, the
reconstruction suggests that supercell tornado frequency has been reasonably
stationary until the 1990s when some increase in frequency is suggested.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 17
The sun "heats the Arctic ocean"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 17 for Cato.

The sun does heat the arctic ocean from the moment the sun rises over the
arctic ocean.

MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 18
Arctic "warming fastest" Gore says the Arctic has been warming faster
than the rest of the planet. It is not.
[/quote]
Which is lie #18 by Cato.
Arctic warming at twice global rate
Shaoni Bhattacharya

17:58 02 November 2004
NewScientist.com news service
Global warming in the Arctic is happening now, warns the most comprehensive
scientific report to date. The reports concludes that the northern ice cap
is warming at twice the global rate and that this will lead to serious
consequences for the planet.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6615-arctic-warming-at-twice-global-rate.html

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 19
Greenland ice sheet "unstable"
[/quote]

Which is lie #19 by Cato.

The word "unstable" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth".

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 20
Himalayan glacial melt waters "failing"
[/quote]
Which is lie #20 by Cato.

The word "failing" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth."

V for Vendicar · Guest

Observation, out of 20 points listed below. Libertarian Cato is found to
have lied in every instance.

Concludion. Libertarian Cato is a Liar.

Hardly a surprise as I have never encounterd a Libertairan who wasn>t a
perpetual liar.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 1
Sea level "rising 6 m"
[/quote]
Never stated. Cato>s First lie.

[quote]ERROR 2
Pacific islands "drowning"
[/quote]
Stated in the future tense, not the current tense. Cato>s Second Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 3
Thermohaline circulation "stopping"
[/quote]
Stated as a possibility - and correctly so. Cato>s Third Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 4
CO2 "driving temperature"
[/quote]
It does. Cato>s Forth Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 5
Gore says "global warming" has been melting the snows of Mount
Kilimanjaro in Africa. It is not.
[/quote]
One researcher claims otherwise. The rest side with Gore. Cato>s Fifth
lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 6
Lake Chad "drying up" Gore says "global warming" dried up Lake Chad in
Africa. It did not. Over-extraction of water and changing agricultural
patterns dried the lake, which was also dry in 8500BC, 5500BC, 1000BC
and 100BC.
[/quote]
Which is Lie number 6 for Cato.

This is what Gore says about Lake Chad...

"Unbelievable tragedies have been unfolding there and there are a lot
reasons for it. Darfur and Niger are among those tragedies. One of the
factors that has been compounding this is the lack of rainfall and the
increasing drought. This is Lake Chad, once one of the largest lakes in the
world. It has dried up over the last few decades to almost nothing."

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 7
Hurricane Katrina "man made"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 7 for Cato

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 8
Polar bears "dying"
[/quote]
Which is lie #8 for Cato

This is what Gore said about Polar Bears.

"So there is a faster build up of heat here at the North Pole in the Arctic
Ocean and the Arctic generally than any where else on the planet. That>s not
good for creatures like polar bears that depend on the ice. A new scientific
study shows that for the first time they>re finding polar bears that have
actually drowned, swimming long distances up to 60 miles to find the ice.
They did not find that before."

Which is correct.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 9
Gore says coral reefs are "bleaching" because of "global warming."
They are not. There was some bleaching in 1998, but this was caused by
the exceptional El Nino Southern Oscillation that year.
[/quote]
Which is error #9 from Cato.

And what is El Nino? A Warming of the Pacific surface waters.

So acccording to Cato, here, it isn>t the warming of the earth>s oceans
that causes coral bleaching, in th pacific, it>s the rise of pacific ocean
temperatures.

MMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 10
100 ppmv of CO2 "melting mile-thick ice"
[/quote]
And that is lie 10 out of 10 for Cato.

The phrase "melting mile-thick ice." never appears in Gores Documentary.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 11
Hurricane Caterina "manmade"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 11 for Cato A repeat of Lie #7

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 12
Japanese typhoons "a new record"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 12 for Cato.

Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 13
Hurricanes "getting stronger"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 13 for Cato
..
Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 14
Big storm insurances losses "increasing"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 14 for Cato
Weather-Related Insurance Losses Doubled in '07
30 Dec 07
Losses to insurers from natural disasters nearly doubled this year to just
below $30 billion globally after an unusually quiet 2006, a leading
reinsurer said, from winter storms in Europe, flooding in Britain and
wildfires in the U.S.

http://www.desmogblog.com/weather-related-insurance-losses-doubled-in-07

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 15
Mumbai "flooding"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 15 for Cato.
Mumbai did flood.

The Maharashtra floods of 2005 refers to the flooding of many parts of the
Indian state of Maharashtra including large areas of the metropolis Mumbai,
a city located on the coast of the Arabian Sea, on the western coast of
India, in which at least 1,000 people died. It occurred just one month after
similar flooding in Gujarat.
The floods were caused by the eighth heaviest ever recorded 24-hour rainfall
figure of 944 mm (37.2 inches) which lashed the metropolis on 26 July 2005,
and intermittently continued for the next day. 644 mm (25.4 inches) was
received within the 12-hr period between 8am and 8pm. Torrential rainfall
continued for the next week.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 16
Severe tornadoes "more frequent"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 16 for Cato.
Reconstructing the frequency of tornado occurrence in the central United
States

Matthew J. Menne, NOAA/NESDIS/NCDC, Asheville, NC

Evidence is presented that the apparent decrease in strong-to-violent
tornado frequency since 1950 implied by the official storm archive is
inconsistent with the radiosonde record. Abrupt changes in the bias of the
reconstruction, that is, the ratio of the number of tornado soundings
predicted to the number observed, are shown to be coincident with changes in
storm classification procedures that occurred during the 1970s and the early
1990s. Rather than a decrease in frequency since the 1950s, the
reconstruction suggests that supercell tornado frequency has been reasonably
stationary until the 1990s when some increase in frequency is suggested.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 17
The sun "heats the Arctic ocean"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 17 for Cato.

The sun does heat the arctic ocean from the moment the sun rises over the
arctic ocean.

MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 18
Arctic "warming fastest" Gore says the Arctic has been warming faster
than the rest of the planet. It is not.
[/quote]
Which is lie #18 by Cato.
Arctic warming at twice global rate
Shaoni Bhattacharya

17:58 02 November 2004
NewScientist.com news service
Global warming in the Arctic is happening now, warns the most comprehensive
scientific report to date. The reports concludes that the northern ice cap
is warming at twice the global rate and that this will lead to serious
consequences for the planet.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6615-arctic-warming-at-twice-global-rate.html

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 19
Greenland ice sheet "unstable"
[/quote]

Which is lie #19 by Cato.

The word "unstable" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth".

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 20
Himalayan glacial melt waters "failing"
[/quote]
Which is lie #20 by Cato.

The word "failing" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth."

V for Vendicar · Guest

Observation, out of 20 points listed below. Libertarian Cato is found to
have lied in every instance.

Concludion. Libertarian Cato is a Liar.

Hardly a surprise as I have never encounterd a Libertairan who wasn>t a
perpetual liar.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 1
Sea level "rising 6 m"
[/quote]
Never stated. Cato>s First lie.

[quote]ERROR 2
Pacific islands "drowning"
[/quote]
Stated in the future tense, not the current tense. Cato>s Second Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 3
Thermohaline circulation "stopping"
[/quote]
Stated as a possibility - and correctly so. Cato>s Third Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 4
CO2 "driving temperature"
[/quote]
It does. Cato>s Forth Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 5
Gore says "global warming" has been melting the snows of Mount
Kilimanjaro in Africa. It is not.
[/quote]
One researcher claims otherwise. The rest side with Gore. Cato>s Fifth
lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 6
Lake Chad "drying up" Gore says "global warming" dried up Lake Chad in
Africa. It did not. Over-extraction of water and changing agricultural
patterns dried the lake, which was also dry in 8500BC, 5500BC, 1000BC
and 100BC.
[/quote]
Which is Lie number 6 for Cato.

This is what Gore says about Lake Chad...

"Unbelievable tragedies have been unfolding there and there are a lot
reasons for it. Darfur and Niger are among those tragedies. One of the
factors that has been compounding this is the lack of rainfall and the
increasing drought. This is Lake Chad, once one of the largest lakes in the
world. It has dried up over the last few decades to almost nothing."

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 7
Hurricane Katrina "man made"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 7 for Cato

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 8
Polar bears "dying"
[/quote]
Which is lie #8 for Cato

This is what Gore said about Polar Bears.

"So there is a faster build up of heat here at the North Pole in the Arctic
Ocean and the Arctic generally than any where else on the planet. That>s not
good for creatures like polar bears that depend on the ice. A new scientific
study shows that for the first time they>re finding polar bears that have
actually drowned, swimming long distances up to 60 miles to find the ice.
They did not find that before."

Which is correct.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 9
Gore says coral reefs are "bleaching" because of "global warming."
They are not. There was some bleaching in 1998, but this was caused by
the exceptional El Nino Southern Oscillation that year.
[/quote]
Which is error #9 from Cato.

And what is El Nino? A Warming of the Pacific surface waters.

So acccording to Cato, here, it isn>t the warming of the earth>s oceans
that causes coral bleaching, in th pacific, it>s the rise of pacific ocean
temperatures.

MMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 10
100 ppmv of CO2 "melting mile-thick ice"
[/quote]
And that is lie 10 out of 10 for Cato.

The phrase "melting mile-thick ice." never appears in Gores Documentary.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 11
Hurricane Caterina "manmade"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 11 for Cato A repeat of Lie #7

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 12
Japanese typhoons "a new record"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 12 for Cato.

Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 13
Hurricanes "getting stronger"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 13 for Cato
..
Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 14
Big storm insurances losses "increasing"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 14 for Cato
Weather-Related Insurance Losses Doubled in '07
30 Dec 07
Losses to insurers from natural disasters nearly doubled this year to just
below $30 billion globally after an unusually quiet 2006, a leading
reinsurer said, from winter storms in Europe, flooding in Britain and
wildfires in the U.S.

http://www.desmogblog.com/weather-related-insurance-losses-doubled-in-07

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 15
Mumbai "flooding"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 15 for Cato.
Mumbai did flood.

The Maharashtra floods of 2005 refers to the flooding of many parts of the
Indian state of Maharashtra including large areas of the metropolis Mumbai,
a city located on the coast of the Arabian Sea, on the western coast of
India, in which at least 1,000 people died. It occurred just one month after
similar flooding in Gujarat.
The floods were caused by the eighth heaviest ever recorded 24-hour rainfall
figure of 944 mm (37.2 inches) which lashed the metropolis on 26 July 2005,
and intermittently continued for the next day. 644 mm (25.4 inches) was
received within the 12-hr period between 8am and 8pm. Torrential rainfall
continued for the next week.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 16
Severe tornadoes "more frequent"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 16 for Cato.
Reconstructing the frequency of tornado occurrence in the central United
States

Matthew J. Menne, NOAA/NESDIS/NCDC, Asheville, NC

Evidence is presented that the apparent decrease in strong-to-violent
tornado frequency since 1950 implied by the official storm archive is
inconsistent with the radiosonde record. Abrupt changes in the bias of the
reconstruction, that is, the ratio of the number of tornado soundings
predicted to the number observed, are shown to be coincident with changes in
storm classification procedures that occurred during the 1970s and the early
1990s. Rather than a decrease in frequency since the 1950s, the
reconstruction suggests that supercell tornado frequency has been reasonably
stationary until the 1990s when some increase in frequency is suggested.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 17
The sun "heats the Arctic ocean"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 17 for Cato.

The sun does heat the arctic ocean from the moment the sun rises over the
arctic ocean.

MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 18
Arctic "warming fastest" Gore says the Arctic has been warming faster
than the rest of the planet. It is not.
[/quote]
Which is lie #18 by Cato.
Arctic warming at twice global rate
Shaoni Bhattacharya

17:58 02 November 2004
NewScientist.com news service
Global warming in the Arctic is happening now, warns the most comprehensive
scientific report to date. The reports concludes that the northern ice cap
is warming at twice the global rate and that this will lead to serious
consequences for the planet.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6615-arctic-warming-at-twice-global-rate.html

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 19
Greenland ice sheet "unstable"
[/quote]

Which is lie #19 by Cato.

The word "unstable" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth".

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 20
Himalayan glacial melt waters "failing"
[/quote]
Which is lie #20 by Cato.

The word "failing" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth."

V for Vendicar · Guest

Observation, out of 20 points listed below. Libertarian Cato is found to
have lied in every instance.

Concludion. Libertarian Cato is a Liar.

Hardly a surprise as I have never encounterd a Libertairan who wasn>t a
perpetual liar.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 1
Sea level "rising 6 m"
[/quote]
Never stated. Cato>s First lie.

[quote]ERROR 2
Pacific islands "drowning"
[/quote]
Stated in the future tense, not the current tense. Cato>s Second Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 3
Thermohaline circulation "stopping"
[/quote]
Stated as a possibility - and correctly so. Cato>s Third Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 4
CO2 "driving temperature"
[/quote]
It does. Cato>s Forth Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 5
Gore says "global warming" has been melting the snows of Mount
Kilimanjaro in Africa. It is not.
[/quote]
One researcher claims otherwise. The rest side with Gore. Cato>s Fifth
lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 6
Lake Chad "drying up" Gore says "global warming" dried up Lake Chad in
Africa. It did not. Over-extraction of water and changing agricultural
patterns dried the lake, which was also dry in 8500BC, 5500BC, 1000BC
and 100BC.
[/quote]
Which is Lie number 6 for Cato.

This is what Gore says about Lake Chad...

"Unbelievable tragedies have been unfolding there and there are a lot
reasons for it. Darfur and Niger are among those tragedies. One of the
factors that has been compounding this is the lack of rainfall and the
increasing drought. This is Lake Chad, once one of the largest lakes in the
world. It has dried up over the last few decades to almost nothing."

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 7
Hurricane Katrina "man made"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 7 for Cato

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 8
Polar bears "dying"
[/quote]
Which is lie #8 for Cato

This is what Gore said about Polar Bears.

"So there is a faster build up of heat here at the North Pole in the Arctic
Ocean and the Arctic generally than any where else on the planet. That>s not
good for creatures like polar bears that depend on the ice. A new scientific
study shows that for the first time they>re finding polar bears that have
actually drowned, swimming long distances up to 60 miles to find the ice.
They did not find that before."

Which is correct.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 9
Gore says coral reefs are "bleaching" because of "global warming."
They are not. There was some bleaching in 1998, but this was caused by
the exceptional El Nino Southern Oscillation that year.
[/quote]
Which is error #9 from Cato.

And what is El Nino? A Warming of the Pacific surface waters.

So acccording to Cato, here, it isn>t the warming of the earth>s oceans
that causes coral bleaching, in th pacific, it>s the rise of pacific ocean
temperatures.

MMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 10
100 ppmv of CO2 "melting mile-thick ice"
[/quote]
And that is lie 10 out of 10 for Cato.

The phrase "melting mile-thick ice." never appears in Gores Documentary.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 11
Hurricane Caterina "manmade"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 11 for Cato A repeat of Lie #7

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 12
Japanese typhoons "a new record"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 12 for Cato.

Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 13
Hurricanes "getting stronger"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 13 for Cato
..
Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 14
Big storm insurances losses "increasing"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 14 for Cato
Weather-Related Insurance Losses Doubled in '07
30 Dec 07
Losses to insurers from natural disasters nearly doubled this year to just
below $30 billion globally after an unusually quiet 2006, a leading
reinsurer said, from winter storms in Europe, flooding in Britain and
wildfires in the U.S.

http://www.desmogblog.com/weather-related-insurance-losses-doubled-in-07

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 15
Mumbai "flooding"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 15 for Cato.
Mumbai did flood.

The Maharashtra floods of 2005 refers to the flooding of many parts of the
Indian state of Maharashtra including large areas of the metropolis Mumbai,
a city located on the coast of the Arabian Sea, on the western coast of
India, in which at least 1,000 people died. It occurred just one month after
similar flooding in Gujarat.
The floods were caused by the eighth heaviest ever recorded 24-hour rainfall
figure of 944 mm (37.2 inches) which lashed the metropolis on 26 July 2005,
and intermittently continued for the next day. 644 mm (25.4 inches) was
received within the 12-hr period between 8am and 8pm. Torrential rainfall
continued for the next week.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 16
Severe tornadoes "more frequent"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 16 for Cato.
Reconstructing the frequency of tornado occurrence in the central United
States

Matthew J. Menne, NOAA/NESDIS/NCDC, Asheville, NC

Evidence is presented that the apparent decrease in strong-to-violent
tornado frequency since 1950 implied by the official storm archive is
inconsistent with the radiosonde record. Abrupt changes in the bias of the
reconstruction, that is, the ratio of the number of tornado soundings
predicted to the number observed, are shown to be coincident with changes in
storm classification procedures that occurred during the 1970s and the early
1990s. Rather than a decrease in frequency since the 1950s, the
reconstruction suggests that supercell tornado frequency has been reasonably
stationary until the 1990s when some increase in frequency is suggested.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 17
The sun "heats the Arctic ocean"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 17 for Cato.

The sun does heat the arctic ocean from the moment the sun rises over the
arctic ocean.

MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 18
Arctic "warming fastest" Gore says the Arctic has been warming faster
than the rest of the planet. It is not.
[/quote]
Which is lie #18 by Cato.
Arctic warming at twice global rate
Shaoni Bhattacharya

17:58 02 November 2004
NewScientist.com news service
Global warming in the Arctic is happening now, warns the most comprehensive
scientific report to date. The reports concludes that the northern ice cap
is warming at twice the global rate and that this will lead to serious
consequences for the planet.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6615-arctic-warming-at-twice-global-rate.html

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 19
Greenland ice sheet "unstable"
[/quote]

Which is lie #19 by Cato.

The word "unstable" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth".

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 20
Himalayan glacial melt waters "failing"
[/quote]
Which is lie #20 by Cato.

The word "failing" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth."

V for Vendicar · Guest

Observation, out of 20 points listed below. Libertarian Cato is found to
have lied in every instance.

Concludion. Libertarian Cato is a Liar.

Hardly a surprise as I have never encounterd a Libertairan who wasn>t a
perpetual liar.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 1
Sea level "rising 6 m"
[/quote]
Never stated. Cato>s First lie.

[quote]ERROR 2
Pacific islands "drowning"
[/quote]
Stated in the future tense, not the current tense. Cato>s Second Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 3
Thermohaline circulation "stopping"
[/quote]
Stated as a possibility - and correctly so. Cato>s Third Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 4
CO2 "driving temperature"
[/quote]
It does. Cato>s Forth Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 5
Gore says "global warming" has been melting the snows of Mount
Kilimanjaro in Africa. It is not.
[/quote]
One researcher claims otherwise. The rest side with Gore. Cato>s Fifth
lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 6
Lake Chad "drying up" Gore says "global warming" dried up Lake Chad in
Africa. It did not. Over-extraction of water and changing agricultural
patterns dried the lake, which was also dry in 8500BC, 5500BC, 1000BC
and 100BC.
[/quote]
Which is Lie number 6 for Cato.

This is what Gore says about Lake Chad...

"Unbelievable tragedies have been unfolding there and there are a lot
reasons for it. Darfur and Niger are among those tragedies. One of the
factors that has been compounding this is the lack of rainfall and the
increasing drought. This is Lake Chad, once one of the largest lakes in the
world. It has dried up over the last few decades to almost nothing."

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 7
Hurricane Katrina "man made"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 7 for Cato

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 8
Polar bears "dying"
[/quote]
Which is lie #8 for Cato

This is what Gore said about Polar Bears.

"So there is a faster build up of heat here at the North Pole in the Arctic
Ocean and the Arctic generally than any where else on the planet. That>s not
good for creatures like polar bears that depend on the ice. A new scientific
study shows that for the first time they>re finding polar bears that have
actually drowned, swimming long distances up to 60 miles to find the ice.
They did not find that before."

Which is correct.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 9
Gore says coral reefs are "bleaching" because of "global warming."
They are not. There was some bleaching in 1998, but this was caused by
the exceptional El Nino Southern Oscillation that year.
[/quote]
Which is error #9 from Cato.

And what is El Nino? A Warming of the Pacific surface waters.

So acccording to Cato, here, it isn>t the warming of the earth>s oceans
that causes coral bleaching, in th pacific, it>s the rise of pacific ocean
temperatures.

MMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 10
100 ppmv of CO2 "melting mile-thick ice"
[/quote]
And that is lie 10 out of 10 for Cato.

The phrase "melting mile-thick ice." never appears in Gores Documentary.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 11
Hurricane Caterina "manmade"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 11 for Cato A repeat of Lie #7

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 12
Japanese typhoons "a new record"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 12 for Cato.

Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 13
Hurricanes "getting stronger"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 13 for Cato
..
Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 14
Big storm insurances losses "increasing"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 14 for Cato
Weather-Related Insurance Losses Doubled in '07
30 Dec 07
Losses to insurers from natural disasters nearly doubled this year to just
below $30 billion globally after an unusually quiet 2006, a leading
reinsurer said, from winter storms in Europe, flooding in Britain and
wildfires in the U.S.

http://www.desmogblog.com/weather-related-insurance-losses-doubled-in-07

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 15
Mumbai "flooding"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 15 for Cato.
Mumbai did flood.

The Maharashtra floods of 2005 refers to the flooding of many parts of the
Indian state of Maharashtra including large areas of the metropolis Mumbai,
a city located on the coast of the Arabian Sea, on the western coast of
India, in which at least 1,000 people died. It occurred just one month after
similar flooding in Gujarat.
The floods were caused by the eighth heaviest ever recorded 24-hour rainfall
figure of 944 mm (37.2 inches) which lashed the metropolis on 26 July 2005,
and intermittently continued for the next day. 644 mm (25.4 inches) was
received within the 12-hr period between 8am and 8pm. Torrential rainfall
continued for the next week.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 16
Severe tornadoes "more frequent"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 16 for Cato.
Reconstructing the frequency of tornado occurrence in the central United
States

Matthew J. Menne, NOAA/NESDIS/NCDC, Asheville, NC

Evidence is presented that the apparent decrease in strong-to-violent
tornado frequency since 1950 implied by the official storm archive is
inconsistent with the radiosonde record. Abrupt changes in the bias of the
reconstruction, that is, the ratio of the number of tornado soundings
predicted to the number observed, are shown to be coincident with changes in
storm classification procedures that occurred during the 1970s and the early
1990s. Rather than a decrease in frequency since the 1950s, the
reconstruction suggests that supercell tornado frequency has been reasonably
stationary until the 1990s when some increase in frequency is suggested.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 17
The sun "heats the Arctic ocean"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 17 for Cato.

The sun does heat the arctic ocean from the moment the sun rises over the
arctic ocean.

MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 18
Arctic "warming fastest" Gore says the Arctic has been warming faster
than the rest of the planet. It is not.
[/quote]
Which is lie #18 by Cato.
Arctic warming at twice global rate
Shaoni Bhattacharya

17:58 02 November 2004
NewScientist.com news service
Global warming in the Arctic is happening now, warns the most comprehensive
scientific report to date. The reports concludes that the northern ice cap
is warming at twice the global rate and that this will lead to serious
consequences for the planet.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6615-arctic-warming-at-twice-global-rate.html

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 19
Greenland ice sheet "unstable"
[/quote]

Which is lie #19 by Cato.

The word "unstable" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth".

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 20
Himalayan glacial melt waters "failing"
[/quote]
Which is lie #20 by Cato.

The word "failing" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth."

Poetic Justice · Guest

V for Vendicar wrote:
[quote]V for Vendicar wrote:
Observation, out of 20 points listed below. Libertarian Cato is found to
have lied in every instance.

Concludion. Libertarian Cato is a Liar.

Hardly a surprise as I have never encounterd a Libertairan who wasn>t a
perpetual liar.

"Poetic Justice" <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-Dog.com> wrote
First you need to know how to tell the truth, then once you know what it
looks like, you>ll learn to recognize it.

Exactly why you can>t recognize it when you see it. And why you blame "Da
Gubderment" for all of your failures.

Just like every other Libertarian whiner who has ever existed.
[/quote]
Actually I was blaming the government with your failures... it>s Liberal
government policy that is the failure so it>s actually your failures,
not government as a whole.

But the fact you even went away with understanding part of the post is a
small miracle.


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