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Catoni · Guest

Mr. Justice Burton declared the case a victory for the claimant. Al
Gore>s film lost the case.

Justice Burton stated... "I conclude that the claimant
substantially won this case by virtue of my finding that, but for
the new guidance note, the film would have been distributed in breach
of
sections 406 and 407 of the 1996 Education Act".[28]

Al Gore>s film is "unfit for schools because it is politically biased
and contains serious scientific
inaccuracies and 'sentimental mush'. That was the original charge
brought to the court.

The Court found that the film was misleading in nine respects and
that the Guidance Notes drafted by the Education Secretary>s advisors
served only to exacerbate the political propaganda in the film.
In order for the film to be shown, the Government must first amend
their Guidance Notes to Teachers to make clear that ...

1.) The Film is a political work and promotes only one side of the
argument.

2.) If teachers present the Film without making this plain they may
be in
breach of section 406 of the Education Act 1996 and guilty of
political indoctrination.

3.) Nine inaccuracies have to be specifically drawn to the attention
of school children.

UKPRwire, Wed Nov 21 2007] New Party member Stewart Dimmock scored a
notable victory last month in the High Court when judgement was
handed
down on the Government>s decision to distribute Al Gore>s An
Inconvenient Truth to all secondary schools in England. The court
flagged up nine clear cut inaccuracies in the film and required the
Government to make an interim payment of £60,000... ($121,185.00
U.S.)
towards Mr Dimmock>s legal bill.

Conclusion: Our resident troll V for Vendicar is liar.

Catoni · Guest

DECARIAN BEING A DECEPTIVE LIAR... WATCH THE INTRODUCTION TO GORE>S
FIM AND YOU CAN EASILY SEE WHAT HE IS INSINUATING....

DECARIAN CAN BE EASILY SHOWN TO BE A DECEPTIVE LIAR.... A
PROPOGANDIST THAT JOSEPH GOEBBELS AND ANDRY VYSHINSKY WOULD BE PROUD
OF

[quote]ERROR 2
Pacific islands "drowning"
Stated in the future tense, not the current tense. Cato>s Second Lie.
[/quote]

DECARIAN BEING HIS USUAL DECEPTIVE SELF..... FROM THE BRITISH
COURT......

"The film claims that rising sea levels has caused the evacuation
of certain Pacific islands to New Zealand. The Government are unable
to substantiate this and the Court observed that this appears to be a
false claim."

www.independent.co.uk/.../disappearing-world-global-warming-claims-tr....
www.newparty.co.uk/articles/inaccuracies-gore.html
frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=11E83480-AC6C-4AF1-
ACD6-C6D06414E9D3
www.webcommentary.com/asp/ShowArticle.asp?id=phyrillast&date=080220
blogs.theage.com.au/slithershanks/archives/2007/10/
should_our_poli.html
www.eclectecon.com/climate/archives/archive_2007_10.shtml

ETC. ETC.

[quote]"Cato" <caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote
ERROR 3
Thermohaline circulation "stopping"
Stated as a possibility - and correctly so. Cato>s Third Lie.
[/quote]

GORE>S INTENTIONAL SCARE MONGERING WITH WILD OFF-THE-WALL
SPECULATION...

DECARIAN THE LEFTIST FOOL....

[quote]"Cato" <caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote
ERROR 4
CO2 "driving temperature"
It does. Cato>s Forth Lie.
[/quote]

DECARIAN THE LIAR HE LIES YET AGAIN

Isotopic analysis of the ice in the core can be linked to
temperature and global sea level variations. Analysis of the air
contained in bubbles in the ice can reveal the palaeocomposition of
the atmosphere, in particular CO2 variations. There are great
problems
relating the dating of the included bubbles to the dating of the ice,
since the bubbles only slowly "close off" after the ice has been
deposited. Nonetheless, recent work has tended to show that during
deglaciations CO2 increases lags temperature increases by 600 +/- 400
years . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_core

ICE CORE STUDIES REVEAL DECARIAN TO BE A LIAR... EVIDENCE IS ALL
OVER THE INTERNET FOR ANYONE WILLING TO LOOK.

"The film suggests that evidence from ice cores proves that
rising
CO2 causes temperature increases over 650,000 years. The Court found
that the film was misleading: over that period the rises in CO2
lagged
behind the temperature rises by 800-2000 years." - British Court

[quote]"Cato" <caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote
ERROR 5
Gore says "global warming" has been melting the snows of Mount
Kilimanjaro in Africa. It is not.
One researcher claims otherwise. The rest side with Gore. Cato>s Fifth
lie.
[/quote]

CITE PLEASE..... DECARIAN THE FOOL.... more and more evidence
shows that the melt started long before the Global Warming scare...
and is a local phenomenon

The British Court decision:
"The film claims that melting snows on Mount Kilimanjaro
evidence global warming. The Government>s expert was forced to
concede
that this is not correct."
The true reason for the vanishing snows of Kilimanjaro is a
significant and well-researched drying of the climate of the region
since as far back as 1880 that has nothing to do with “global
warming”, exacerbated drying of the air around the mountain caused by
imprudent post-colonial deforestation.

The decisive scientific paper in this debate was written recently by
three climatologists from the Tropical Glaciology Group of the
Department of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the University of
Innsbruck, two from the Cooperative Institute for Research in
Environmental Sciences at the University of Colorado, and one from
the
Climate System Research Center of the Department of Geosciences at
the
University of Massachusetts.

They say –

“The retreat of glaciers on Kilimanjaro has in recent years attracted
broad attention, with their disappearance sometimes linked to
tropical
warming. … All ice bodies on Kilimanjaro have retreated drastically
between 1912-2003,”

but they add that the highest glacial recession rates on Kilimanjaro
–

“occurred in the first part of the 20th century, with the most recent
retreat rates (1989-2003) smaller than in any other interval.”

They conclude that the glaciers of Kilimanjaro –

“are merely remnants of a past climate rather than sensitive
indicators of 20th century climate change”.

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[quote]"Cato" <caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote
ERROR 6
Lake Chad "drying up" Gore says "global warming" dried up Lake Chad in
Africa. It did not. Over-extraction of water and changing agricultural
patterns dried the lake, which was also dry in 8500BC, 5500BC, 1000BC
and 100BC.
Which is Lie number 6 for Cato.
This is what Gore says about Lake Chad...
"Unbelievable tragedies have been unfolding there and there are a lot
reasons for it. Darfur and Niger are among those tragedies. One of the
factors that has been compounding this is the lack of rainfall and the
increasing drought. This is Lake Chad, once one of the largest lakes in the
world. It has dried up over the last few decades to almost nothing."
[/quote]

DECARIAN IS A LIAR..... IF GORE ISN>T SAYING THAT LAKE CHAD IS
DRYING UP BECAUSE OF GLOBAL WARMING...... THEN WHY PUT IT IN THE FILM
OF GLOBAL WARMING?????
OF COURSE THAT IS WHAT HE IS SAYING..IN IMPLICATION AT LEAST

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[quote]"Cato" <caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote
ERROR 7
Hurricane Katrina "man made"
Which is lie # 7 for Cato
This is what Gore says about Katrina.
"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "
[/quote]

WHY DOES DECARIAN THINK THAT GORE PUT THAT IN THE FILM...... TO
IMPLY THAT IT IS MANKIND>S FAULT OF COURSE...

DECARIAN..... TRYING HIS BEST TO GET AN AWARD FOR MASTER OF
DECEPTION....

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[quote]"Cato" <caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote
ERROR 8
Polar bears "dying"
Which is lie #8 for Cato
This is what Gore said about Polar Bears.
"So there is a faster build up of heat here at the North Pole in the Arctic
Ocean and the Arctic generally than any where else on the planet. That>s not
good for creatures like polar bears that depend on the ice. A new scientific
study shows that for the first time they>re finding polar bears that have
actually drowned, swimming long distances up to 60 miles to find the ice.
They did not find that before."
Which is correct.
[/quote]

DECARIAN THE LIAR.... ALONG WITH HIS HIGH PRIEST, AL GORE..

in fact four polar bears drowned and this was because of a
particularly violent storm.
It happens asshole...

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[quote]"Cato" <caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote
ERROR 9
Gore says coral reefs are "bleaching" because of "global warming."
They are not. There was some bleaching in 1998, but this was caused by
the exceptional El Nino Southern Oscillation that year.
Which is error #9 from Cato.
And what is El Nino? A Warming of the Pacific surface waters.
So acccording to Cato, here, it isn>t the warming of the earth>s oceans
that causes coral bleaching, in th pacific, it>s the rise of pacific ocean
temperatures.
MMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNN
[/quote]

ASSHOLE DECARIAN THE LIAR

"The film blames global warming for species losses including
coral reef bleaching. The Government could not find any evidence to
support this claim."

El Nino is a natural oscillation of the Pacific.... many things
cause coral bleaching (Loss of color... not death)
increased or reduced water temperatures
increased solar irradiance (photosynthetically active radiation and
ultraviolet band light)
changes in water chemistry (in particular ocean acidification)
increased sedimentation (can be contributed to silt runoff)
pathogen infections
changes in salinity

CORALS HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR MANY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF
YEARS.... WHY WEREN>T THEY KILLED OFF WITH PAST GLOBAL WARMINGS WHEN
IT WAS MUCH HOTTER THEN NOW?????

[quote]"Cato" <caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote
ERROR 10
100 ppmv of CO2 "melting mile-thick ice"
And that is lie 10 out of 10 for Cato.
The phrase "melting mile-thick ice." never appears in Gores Documentary..
"Cato" <caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote
[/quote]

MORE DECEPTION BY DECARIAN.... ANYONE WATCHING THE FILM CAN EASILY
SEE THAT GORE INTENTIONALLY IMPLIES THIS...

[quote]ERROR 11
Hurricane Caterina "manmade"
Which is lie # 11 for Cato A repeat of Lie #7
[/quote]

DECARIAN THE FOOL....

"The film uses emotive images of Hurricane Katrina and
suggests that this has been caused by global warming. The
Government>s
expert had to accept that it was "not possible" to attribute one-off
events to global warming."

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DECARIAN THE FOOL.... DECARIAN GUILTY OF DECEPTION AND LYING

"The film uses emotive images of Hurricane Katrina and
suggests that this has been caused by global warming. The
Government>s
expert had to accept that it was "not possible" to attribute one-off
events to global warming."

[quote]This is what Gore says about Katrina.
"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "
[/quote]

YEAH SCOTT.. WONDER WHY GORE PUT THAT IN A MOVIE ABOUT GLOBAL
WARMING IF HE WASN>T IMPLYING THAT GLOBAL WARMING IS CAUSING IT OR
MAKING IT WORSE...?????

SCOTT NUDDS THE ASSHOLE!!!

[quote]"Cato" <caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote
ERROR 12
Japanese typhoons "a new record"
Which is lie # 12 for Cato.
Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm
[/quote]

COMMONDREAMS.ORG..... ONE OF DECARIAN>S FAVORITE LEFTIST
PROPOGANDA SOURCES... LOL :)

[quote]"Cato" <caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote
ERROR 13
Hurricanes "getting stronger"
Which is lie # 13 for Cato
.
Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm
[/quote]

REPEAT OF ABOVE.... SCIENTISTS AKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU CANT USE ONE-
OFF>S AS EVIDENCE OF ANYTHING.... YOU ALSO HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT
THE ATLANTIC MULTI-DECADE OSCILLATION (AMO)

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[quote]Atlantic Multi-Decade Oscillation
"Cato" <caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote
ERROR 14
Big storm insurances losses "increasing"
Which is lie # 14 for Cato
Weather-Related Insurance Losses Doubled in '07
30 Dec 07
Losses to insurers from natural disasters nearly doubled this year to just
below $30 billion globally after an unusually quiet 2006, a leading
reinsurer said, from winter storms in Europe, flooding in Britain and
wildfires in the U.S.
http://www.desmogblog.com/weather-related-insurance-losses-doubled-in-07
"Cato" <caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote
ERROR 15
Mumbai "flooding"
Which is lie # 15 for Cato.
Mumbai did flood.
The Maharashtra floods of 2005 refers to the flooding of many parts of the
Indian state of Maharashtra including large areas of the metropolis Mumbai,
a city located on the coast of the Arabian Sea, on the western coast of
India, in which at least 1,000 people died. It occurred just one month after
similar flooding in Gujarat.
The floods were caused by the eighth heaviest ever recorded 24-hour rainfall
figure of 944 mm (37.2 inches) which lashed the metropolis on 26 July 2005,
and intermittently continued for the next day. 644 mm (25.4 inches) was
received within the 12-hr period between 8am and 8pm. Torrential rainfall
continued for the next week.
[/quote]

THE IMPLICATION... AS IN ALL OF GORE>S FILM.. IS THAT IT IS ALL
OUR FAULT... YOU IDIOT

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[quote]"Cato" <caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote
ERROR 16
Severe tornadoes "more frequent"
Which is lie # 16 for Cato.
Reconstructing the frequency of tornado occurrence in the central United
States
Matthew J. Menne, NOAA/NESDIS/NCDC, Asheville, NC
Evidence is presented that the apparent decrease in strong-to-violent
tornado frequency since 1950 implied by the official storm archive is
inconsistent with the radiosonde record. Abrupt changes in the bias of the
reconstruction, that is, the ratio of the number of tornado soundings
predicted to the number observed, are shown to be coincident with changes in
storm classification procedures that occurred during the 1970s and the early
1990s. Rather than a decrease in frequency since the 1950s, the
reconstruction suggests that supercell tornado frequency has been reasonably
stationary until the 1990s when some increase in frequency is suggested.
"Cato" <caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote
ERROR 17
The sun "heats the Arctic ocean"
Which is lie # 17 for Cato.
The sun does heat the arctic ocean from the moment the sun rises over the
arctic ocean.
MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN
[/quote]

DECARIAN FOUND TO BE IGNORANT AND DECEPTIVE.

The ocean emits radiant energy at the moment of absorption, and
would freeze if there were no atmosphere. It is the atmosphere, not
the Sun that warms the ocean. Also, Gore’s diagram confuses the
tropopause with the ionosphere, and he makes a number of other errors
indicating that he does not understand the elementary physics of
radiative transfer.

DECARIAN UNDERSTANDS NOTHING OF RADIATIVE TRANSFER... OR HE
DOES.. AND IS JUST BEING HIS USUAL LEFTIST DECEPTIVE SELF

[quote]"Cato" <caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote
ERROR 18
Arctic "warming fastest" Gore says the Arctic has been warming faster
than the rest of the planet. It is not.
Which is lie #18 by Cato.
Arctic warming at twice global rate
Shaoni Bhattacharya
17:58 02 November 2004
NewScientist.com news service
Global warming in the Arctic is happening now, warns the most comprehensive
scientific report to date. The reports concludes that the northern ice cap
is warming at twice the global rate and that this will lead to serious
consequences for the planet.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6615-arctic-warming-at-twice-gl...
[/quote]

Gore says the Arctic has been warming faster than the rest of
the
planet. It is not. While it is in general true that during periods of
warming (whether natural or anthropogenic) the Arctic will warm
faster
than other regions, Gore does not mention that the Arctic has been
cooling over the past 60 years, and is now one degree Celsius cooler
than it was in the 1940s. There was a record amount of snow cover in
the Northern Hemisphere in 2001. Several vessels were icebound in the
Arctic in the spring of 2007, but few newspapers reported this. The
newspapers reported that the North-West Passage was free of ice in
2007, and said that this was for the first time since records began:
but the records, taken by satellites, had only begun 29 years
previously. The North-West Passage had also been open for shipping in
1945, and, in 1903, the great Norwegian explorer Amundsen had passed
through it in a sailing ship.

[quote]"Cato" <caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote
ERROR 19
Greenland ice sheet "unstable"
Which is lie #19 by Cato.
The word "unstable" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth".
[/quote]

OHH,.. NOW DECARIAN WANTS TO ARGUE SEMANTICS....

"The film suggests that the Greenland ice covering could melt
causing sea levels to rise dangerously. The evidence is that
Greenland
will not melt for millennia." -British Court

[quote]"Cato" <caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote
ERROR 20
Himalayan glacial melt waters "failing"
Which is lie #20 by Cato.
The word "failing" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary -
[/quote]

AGAIN SEMANTICS....... ANYONE CAN EASILY SEE THAT GORE IS
IMPLYING IT...

VENDICAR IS DECEPTIVE

VENDICAR YOU ARE A DECEPTIVE LIAR THAT PICKS AND CHOOSES YOUR
FAVOURITE PROPOGANDA SOURCES

YOU CHOOSE SOURCES FROM SCIENTISTS WITH A VESTED INTEREST IN
PROMOTING SCARE MONGERING ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING IN ORDER TO KEEP THEIR
CHECKS COMING IN

THE BRITSH COURT FOUND AT LEAST NINE... AND POSSIBLE ELEVEN
INACCURACIES

British High Court Order:
In order for the film to be shown, the Government must first amend
their Guidance Notes to Teachers to make clear that

1.) The Film is a political work and promotes only one side of the
argument.

2.) If teachers present the Film without making this plain they may
be
in breach of section 406 of the Education Act 1996 and GUILTY OF
POLITICAN INDOCTRINATION.

3.) Eleven inaccuracies have to be specifically drawn to the
attention
of school children.

How marvelous. And what are those inaccuracies?

1. The film claims that melting snows on Mount Kilimanjaro evidence
global warming. The Government>s expert was forced to concede that
this is not correct.

2. The film suggests that evidence from ice cores proves that
rising CO2 causes temperature increases over 650,000 years. The Court
found
that the film was misleading: over that period the rises in CO2
lagged behind the temperature rises by 800-2000 years.

3. The film uses emotive images of Hurricane Katrina and suggests
that this has been caused by global warming. The Government>s expert
had to accept that it was "not possible" to attribute one-off events
to global warming.

4. The film shows the drying up of Lake Chad and claims that this
was caused by global warming. The Government>s expert had to accept
that this was not the case.

5. The film claims that a study showed that polar bears had drowned
due to disappearing arctic ice. It turned out that Mr Gore had
misread the study: in fact four polar bears drowned and this was
because of a
particularly violent storm.

6. The film threatens that global warming could stop the Gulf
Stream throwing Europe into an ice age: the Claimant>s evidence was
that
this was a scientific impossibility.

7. The film blames global warming for species losses including
coral reef bleaching. The Government could not find any evidence to
support
this claim.

8. The film suggests that the Greenland ice covering could melt
causing sea levels to rise dangerously. The ...

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9. The film suggests that the Antarctic ice covering is melting,
the evidence was that it is in fact increasing.

10. The film suggests that sea levels could rise by 7m causing the
displacement of millions of people. In fact the evidence is that sea
levels are expected to rise by about 40cm over the next hundred years
and that there is no such threat of massive migration.

11. The film claims that rising sea levels has caused the
evacuation of certain Pacific islands to New Zealand. The Government
are unable
to substantiate this and the Court observed that this appears to be a
false claim.

In the end, a climate change skeptic in the States must hope that an
American truck driver files such a lawsuit here so that a U.S. judge
can make similar determinations.

Of course, even if one could find such an impartial jurist, our media
wouldn>t find it newsworthy, would they?

DECARIAN CAN BE EASILY SHOWN TO BE A DECEPTIVE LIAR.... A
PROPOGANDIST THAT JOSEPH GOEBBELS AND ANDRY VYSHINSKY WOULD BE PROUD
OF !
V FOR VENDICAR........MASTER TROLL TRYING TO BE A
MASTER OF DECEPTION

AKA VENDICAR DECARIAN... SCOTT NUDDS AKA SCOTT DOUGLAS, AKA NUDDLEY
THE NUDDLER
AKA SKUTTLE NUTTS
His girlfriend is Naomi Goldstein-Goldman. She can tell you how he
got his nickname Skuttle Nutts... ha.. ha... ha

Catoni · Guest

Why would anybody want to listen to V for Vendicar? Nudds is a run-
away ex-pat American citizen that now lives in Hamilton, Ontario,
Canada working a a public school janitor.
He is troll with a long history of attacking Libertarians and
Conservatives on the internet. He likes nothing better the
confrontation and dragging people through the mud...

Vendicar Decarian ...... One of the leaders of the Troll
Party.... ha ... ha ..... ha....

Run-away American. Hates his own country...

V for Vendicar · Guest

Observation, out of 20 points listed below. Libertarian Cato is found to
have lied in every instance.

Concludion. Libertarian Cato is a Liar.

Hardly a surprise as I have never encounterd a Libertairan who wasn>t a
perpetual liar.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 1
Sea level "rising 6 m"
[/quote]
Never stated. Cato>s First lie.

[quote]ERROR 2
Pacific islands "drowning"
[/quote]
Stated in the future tense, not the current tense. Cato>s Second Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 3
Thermohaline circulation "stopping"
[/quote]
Stated as a possibility - and correctly so. Cato>s Third Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 4
CO2 "driving temperature"
[/quote]
It does. Cato>s Forth Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 5
Gore says "global warming" has been melting the snows of Mount
Kilimanjaro in Africa. It is not.
[/quote]
One researcher claims otherwise. The rest side with Gore. Cato>s Fifth
lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 6
Lake Chad "drying up" Gore says "global warming" dried up Lake Chad in
Africa. It did not. Over-extraction of water and changing agricultural
patterns dried the lake, which was also dry in 8500BC, 5500BC, 1000BC
and 100BC.
[/quote]
Which is Lie number 6 for Cato.

This is what Gore says about Lake Chad...

"Unbelievable tragedies have been unfolding there and there are a lot
reasons for it. Darfur and Niger are among those tragedies. One of the
factors that has been compounding this is the lack of rainfall and the
increasing drought. This is Lake Chad, once one of the largest lakes in the
world. It has dried up over the last few decades to almost nothing."

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 7
Hurricane Katrina "man made"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 7 for Cato

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 8
Polar bears "dying"
[/quote]
Which is lie #8 for Cato

This is what Gore said about Polar Bears.

"So there is a faster build up of heat here at the North Pole in the Arctic
Ocean and the Arctic generally than any where else on the planet. That>s not
good for creatures like polar bears that depend on the ice. A new scientific
study shows that for the first time they>re finding polar bears that have
actually drowned, swimming long distances up to 60 miles to find the ice.
They did not find that before."

Which is correct.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 9
Gore says coral reefs are "bleaching" because of "global warming."
They are not. There was some bleaching in 1998, but this was caused by
the exceptional El Nino Southern Oscillation that year.
[/quote]
Which is error #9 from Cato.

And what is El Nino? A Warming of the Pacific surface waters.

So acccording to Cato, here, it isn>t the warming of the earth>s oceans
that causes coral bleaching, in th pacific, it>s the rise of pacific ocean
temperatures.

MMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 10
100 ppmv of CO2 "melting mile-thick ice"
[/quote]
And that is lie 10 out of 10 for Cato.

The phrase "melting mile-thick ice." never appears in Gores Documentary.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 11
Hurricane Caterina "manmade"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 11 for Cato A repeat of Lie #7

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 12
Japanese typhoons "a new record"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 12 for Cato.

Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 13
Hurricanes "getting stronger"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 13 for Cato
..
Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 14
Big storm insurances losses "increasing"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 14 for Cato
Weather-Related Insurance Losses Doubled in '07
30 Dec 07
Losses to insurers from natural disasters nearly doubled this year to just
below $30 billion globally after an unusually quiet 2006, a leading
reinsurer said, from winter storms in Europe, flooding in Britain and
wildfires in the U.S.

http://www.desmogblog.com/weather-related-insurance-losses-doubled-in-07

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 15
Mumbai "flooding"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 15 for Cato.
Mumbai did flood.

The Maharashtra floods of 2005 refers to the flooding of many parts of the
Indian state of Maharashtra including large areas of the metropolis Mumbai,
a city located on the coast of the Arabian Sea, on the western coast of
India, in which at least 1,000 people died. It occurred just one month after
similar flooding in Gujarat.
The floods were caused by the eighth heaviest ever recorded 24-hour rainfall
figure of 944 mm (37.2 inches) which lashed the metropolis on 26 July 2005,
and intermittently continued for the next day. 644 mm (25.4 inches) was
received within the 12-hr period between 8am and 8pm. Torrential rainfall
continued for the next week.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 16
Severe tornadoes "more frequent"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 16 for Cato.
Reconstructing the frequency of tornado occurrence in the central United
States

Matthew J. Menne, NOAA/NESDIS/NCDC, Asheville, NC

Evidence is presented that the apparent decrease in strong-to-violent
tornado frequency since 1950 implied by the official storm archive is
inconsistent with the radiosonde record. Abrupt changes in the bias of the
reconstruction, that is, the ratio of the number of tornado soundings
predicted to the number observed, are shown to be coincident with changes in
storm classification procedures that occurred during the 1970s and the early
1990s. Rather than a decrease in frequency since the 1950s, the
reconstruction suggests that supercell tornado frequency has been reasonably
stationary until the 1990s when some increase in frequency is suggested.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 17
The sun "heats the Arctic ocean"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 17 for Cato.

The sun does heat the arctic ocean from the moment the sun rises over the
arctic ocean.

MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 18
Arctic "warming fastest" Gore says the Arctic has been warming faster
than the rest of the planet. It is not.
[/quote]
Which is lie #18 by Cato.
Arctic warming at twice global rate
Shaoni Bhattacharya

17:58 02 November 2004
NewScientist.com news service
Global warming in the Arctic is happening now, warns the most comprehensive
scientific report to date. The reports concludes that the northern ice cap
is warming at twice the global rate and that this will lead to serious
consequences for the planet.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6615-arctic-warming-at-twice-global-rate.html

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 19
Greenland ice sheet "unstable"
[/quote]

Which is lie #19 by Cato.

The word "unstable" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth".

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 20
Himalayan glacial melt waters "failing"
[/quote]
Which is lie #20 by Cato.

The word "failing" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth."

V for Vendicar · Guest

What seems extraordinary, though, is that Ofcom has decided Durkin>s
programme was not in breach of the code when it comes to factual accuracy.
So apparently:

.. It>s OK to fabricate graphics.

.. It>s OK to state that volcanoes emit more carbon dioxide than humans when
in fact humans emit far more.

.. It>s OK to present scientists as experts in fields they in fact know
little about.

.. It>s OK to present disputed claims as if they were well-established and
accepted scientific facts.

.. It>s OK to claim: "There is no evidence at all from Earth>s long climate
history that carbon dioxide has ever determined global temperatures", when
there is overwhelming evidence going back many decades that CO2 does play a
role.

.. It>s OK to deliberately confuse long-term changes in sea ice cover with
the seasonal coming and going of ice.

.. It>s OK to state that Margaret Thatcher made a speech to scientists at the
Royal Society saying: "There>s money on the table for you to prove this
stuff" (meaning global warming) when she did not say any such thing. The
extraordinary idea being that climate change was an issue cooked up by
climate scientists in order to get funding.

.. It>s OK to state that, "The common belief that carbon dioxide is driving
climate change is at odds with much of the available scientific data: data
from weather balloons and satellites, from ice core surveys, and from the
historical temperature records" when this is clearly untrue.

.. It>s OK to claim that an individual called Piers Corbyn produces more
accurate weather forecasts than the UK>s Met Office when there is no
evidence of this at all.

The list could go on and on, but you get the picture. I can>t think of any
supposedly factual programme on British TV that was less accurate than
Durkin>s polemic. For Ofcom to rule that it was not factually misleading is
extraordinary and sets a disastrous precedent for programmes relating to
controversial scientific issues.

V for Vendicar · Guest

Observation, out of 20 points listed below. Libertarian Cato is found to
have lied in every instance.

Concludion. Libertarian Cato is a Liar.

Hardly a surprise as I have never encounterd a Libertairan who wasn>t a
perpetual liar.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 1
Sea level "rising 6 m"
[/quote]
Never stated. Cato>s First lie.

[quote]ERROR 2
Pacific islands "drowning"
[/quote]
Stated in the future tense, not the current tense. Cato>s Second Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 3
Thermohaline circulation "stopping"
[/quote]
Stated as a possibility - and correctly so. Cato>s Third Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 4
CO2 "driving temperature"
[/quote]
It does. Cato>s Forth Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 5
Gore says "global warming" has been melting the snows of Mount
Kilimanjaro in Africa. It is not.
[/quote]
One researcher claims otherwise. The rest side with Gore. Cato>s Fifth
lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 6
Lake Chad "drying up" Gore says "global warming" dried up Lake Chad in
Africa. It did not. Over-extraction of water and changing agricultural
patterns dried the lake, which was also dry in 8500BC, 5500BC, 1000BC
and 100BC.
[/quote]
Which is Lie number 6 for Cato.

This is what Gore says about Lake Chad...

"Unbelievable tragedies have been unfolding there and there are a lot
reasons for it. Darfur and Niger are among those tragedies. One of the
factors that has been compounding this is the lack of rainfall and the
increasing drought. This is Lake Chad, once one of the largest lakes in the
world. It has dried up over the last few decades to almost nothing."

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 7
Hurricane Katrina "man made"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 7 for Cato

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 8
Polar bears "dying"
[/quote]
Which is lie #8 for Cato

This is what Gore said about Polar Bears.

"So there is a faster build up of heat here at the North Pole in the Arctic
Ocean and the Arctic generally than any where else on the planet. That>s not
good for creatures like polar bears that depend on the ice. A new scientific
study shows that for the first time they>re finding polar bears that have
actually drowned, swimming long distances up to 60 miles to find the ice.
They did not find that before."

Which is correct.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 9
Gore says coral reefs are "bleaching" because of "global warming."
They are not. There was some bleaching in 1998, but this was caused by
the exceptional El Nino Southern Oscillation that year.
[/quote]
Which is error #9 from Cato.

And what is El Nino? A Warming of the Pacific surface waters.

So acccording to Cato, here, it isn>t the warming of the earth>s oceans
that causes coral bleaching, in th pacific, it>s the rise of pacific ocean
temperatures.

MMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 10
100 ppmv of CO2 "melting mile-thick ice"
[/quote]
And that is lie 10 out of 10 for Cato.

The phrase "melting mile-thick ice." never appears in Gores Documentary.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 11
Hurricane Caterina "manmade"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 11 for Cato A repeat of Lie #7

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 12
Japanese typhoons "a new record"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 12 for Cato.

Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 13
Hurricanes "getting stronger"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 13 for Cato
..
Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 14
Big storm insurances losses "increasing"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 14 for Cato
Weather-Related Insurance Losses Doubled in '07
30 Dec 07
Losses to insurers from natural disasters nearly doubled this year to just
below $30 billion globally after an unusually quiet 2006, a leading
reinsurer said, from winter storms in Europe, flooding in Britain and
wildfires in the U.S.

http://www.desmogblog.com/weather-related-insurance-losses-doubled-in-07

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 15
Mumbai "flooding"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 15 for Cato.
Mumbai did flood.

The Maharashtra floods of 2005 refers to the flooding of many parts of the
Indian state of Maharashtra including large areas of the metropolis Mumbai,
a city located on the coast of the Arabian Sea, on the western coast of
India, in which at least 1,000 people died. It occurred just one month after
similar flooding in Gujarat.
The floods were caused by the eighth heaviest ever recorded 24-hour rainfall
figure of 944 mm (37.2 inches) which lashed the metropolis on 26 July 2005,
and intermittently continued for the next day. 644 mm (25.4 inches) was
received within the 12-hr period between 8am and 8pm. Torrential rainfall
continued for the next week.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 16
Severe tornadoes "more frequent"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 16 for Cato.
Reconstructing the frequency of tornado occurrence in the central United
States

Matthew J. Menne, NOAA/NESDIS/NCDC, Asheville, NC

Evidence is presented that the apparent decrease in strong-to-violent
tornado frequency since 1950 implied by the official storm archive is
inconsistent with the radiosonde record. Abrupt changes in the bias of the
reconstruction, that is, the ratio of the number of tornado soundings
predicted to the number observed, are shown to be coincident with changes in
storm classification procedures that occurred during the 1970s and the early
1990s. Rather than a decrease in frequency since the 1950s, the
reconstruction suggests that supercell tornado frequency has been reasonably
stationary until the 1990s when some increase in frequency is suggested.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 17
The sun "heats the Arctic ocean"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 17 for Cato.

The sun does heat the arctic ocean from the moment the sun rises over the
arctic ocean.

MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 18
Arctic "warming fastest" Gore says the Arctic has been warming faster
than the rest of the planet. It is not.
[/quote]
Which is lie #18 by Cato.
Arctic warming at twice global rate
Shaoni Bhattacharya

17:58 02 November 2004
NewScientist.com news service
Global warming in the Arctic is happening now, warns the most comprehensive
scientific report to date. The reports concludes that the northern ice cap
is warming at twice the global rate and that this will lead to serious
consequences for the planet.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6615-arctic-warming-at-twice-global-rate.html

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 19
Greenland ice sheet "unstable"
[/quote]

Which is lie #19 by Cato.

The word "unstable" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth".

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 20
Himalayan glacial melt waters "failing"
[/quote]
Which is lie #20 by Cato.

The word "failing" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth."

V for Vendicar · Guest

Observation, out of 20 points listed below. Libertarian Cato is found to
have lied in every instance.

Concludion. Libertarian Cato is a Liar.

Hardly a surprise as I have never encounterd a Libertairan who wasn>t a
perpetual liar.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 1
Sea level "rising 6 m"
[/quote]
Never stated. Cato>s First lie.

[quote]ERROR 2
Pacific islands "drowning"
[/quote]
Stated in the future tense, not the current tense. Cato>s Second Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 3
Thermohaline circulation "stopping"
[/quote]
Stated as a possibility - and correctly so. Cato>s Third Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 4
CO2 "driving temperature"
[/quote]
It does. Cato>s Forth Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 5
Gore says "global warming" has been melting the snows of Mount
Kilimanjaro in Africa. It is not.
[/quote]
One researcher claims otherwise. The rest side with Gore. Cato>s Fifth
lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 6
Lake Chad "drying up" Gore says "global warming" dried up Lake Chad in
Africa. It did not. Over-extraction of water and changing agricultural
patterns dried the lake, which was also dry in 8500BC, 5500BC, 1000BC
and 100BC.
[/quote]
Which is Lie number 6 for Cato.

This is what Gore says about Lake Chad...

"Unbelievable tragedies have been unfolding there and there are a lot
reasons for it. Darfur and Niger are among those tragedies. One of the
factors that has been compounding this is the lack of rainfall and the
increasing drought. This is Lake Chad, once one of the largest lakes in the
world. It has dried up over the last few decades to almost nothing."

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 7
Hurricane Katrina "man made"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 7 for Cato

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 8
Polar bears "dying"
[/quote]
Which is lie #8 for Cato

This is what Gore said about Polar Bears.

"So there is a faster build up of heat here at the North Pole in the Arctic
Ocean and the Arctic generally than any where else on the planet. That>s not
good for creatures like polar bears that depend on the ice. A new scientific
study shows that for the first time they>re finding polar bears that have
actually drowned, swimming long distances up to 60 miles to find the ice.
They did not find that before."

Which is correct.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 9
Gore says coral reefs are "bleaching" because of "global warming."
They are not. There was some bleaching in 1998, but this was caused by
the exceptional El Nino Southern Oscillation that year.
[/quote]
Which is error #9 from Cato.

And what is El Nino? A Warming of the Pacific surface waters.

So acccording to Cato, here, it isn>t the warming of the earth>s oceans
that causes coral bleaching, in th pacific, it>s the rise of pacific ocean
temperatures.

MMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 10
100 ppmv of CO2 "melting mile-thick ice"
[/quote]
And that is lie 10 out of 10 for Cato.

The phrase "melting mile-thick ice." never appears in Gores Documentary.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 11
Hurricane Caterina "manmade"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 11 for Cato A repeat of Lie #7

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 12
Japanese typhoons "a new record"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 12 for Cato.

Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 13
Hurricanes "getting stronger"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 13 for Cato
..
Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 14
Big storm insurances losses "increasing"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 14 for Cato
Weather-Related Insurance Losses Doubled in '07
30 Dec 07
Losses to insurers from natural disasters nearly doubled this year to just
below $30 billion globally after an unusually quiet 2006, a leading
reinsurer said, from winter storms in Europe, flooding in Britain and
wildfires in the U.S.

http://www.desmogblog.com/weather-related-insurance-losses-doubled-in-07

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 15
Mumbai "flooding"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 15 for Cato.
Mumbai did flood.

The Maharashtra floods of 2005 refers to the flooding of many parts of the
Indian state of Maharashtra including large areas of the metropolis Mumbai,
a city located on the coast of the Arabian Sea, on the western coast of
India, in which at least 1,000 people died. It occurred just one month after
similar flooding in Gujarat.
The floods were caused by the eighth heaviest ever recorded 24-hour rainfall
figure of 944 mm (37.2 inches) which lashed the metropolis on 26 July 2005,
and intermittently continued for the next day. 644 mm (25.4 inches) was
received within the 12-hr period between 8am and 8pm. Torrential rainfall
continued for the next week.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 16
Severe tornadoes "more frequent"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 16 for Cato.
Reconstructing the frequency of tornado occurrence in the central United
States

Matthew J. Menne, NOAA/NESDIS/NCDC, Asheville, NC

Evidence is presented that the apparent decrease in strong-to-violent
tornado frequency since 1950 implied by the official storm archive is
inconsistent with the radiosonde record. Abrupt changes in the bias of the
reconstruction, that is, the ratio of the number of tornado soundings
predicted to the number observed, are shown to be coincident with changes in
storm classification procedures that occurred during the 1970s and the early
1990s. Rather than a decrease in frequency since the 1950s, the
reconstruction suggests that supercell tornado frequency has been reasonably
stationary until the 1990s when some increase in frequency is suggested.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 17
The sun "heats the Arctic ocean"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 17 for Cato.

The sun does heat the arctic ocean from the moment the sun rises over the
arctic ocean.

MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 18
Arctic "warming fastest" Gore says the Arctic has been warming faster
than the rest of the planet. It is not.
[/quote]
Which is lie #18 by Cato.
Arctic warming at twice global rate
Shaoni Bhattacharya

17:58 02 November 2004
NewScientist.com news service
Global warming in the Arctic is happening now, warns the most comprehensive
scientific report to date. The reports concludes that the northern ice cap
is warming at twice the global rate and that this will lead to serious
consequences for the planet.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6615-arctic-warming-at-twice-global-rate.html

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 19
Greenland ice sheet "unstable"
[/quote]

Which is lie #19 by Cato.

The word "unstable" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth".

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 20
Himalayan glacial melt waters "failing"
[/quote]
Which is lie #20 by Cato.

The word "failing" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth."

V for Vendicar · Guest

Observation, out of 20 points listed below. Libertarian Cato is found to
have lied in every instance.

Concludion. Libertarian Cato is a Liar.

Hardly a surprise as I have never encounterd a Libertairan who wasn>t a
perpetual liar.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 1
Sea level "rising 6 m"
[/quote]
Never stated. Cato>s First lie.

[quote]ERROR 2
Pacific islands "drowning"
[/quote]
Stated in the future tense, not the current tense. Cato>s Second Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 3
Thermohaline circulation "stopping"
[/quote]
Stated as a possibility - and correctly so. Cato>s Third Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 4
CO2 "driving temperature"
[/quote]
It does. Cato>s Forth Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 5
Gore says "global warming" has been melting the snows of Mount
Kilimanjaro in Africa. It is not.
[/quote]
One researcher claims otherwise. The rest side with Gore. Cato>s Fifth
lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 6
Lake Chad "drying up" Gore says "global warming" dried up Lake Chad in
Africa. It did not. Over-extraction of water and changing agricultural
patterns dried the lake, which was also dry in 8500BC, 5500BC, 1000BC
and 100BC.
[/quote]
Which is Lie number 6 for Cato.

This is what Gore says about Lake Chad...

"Unbelievable tragedies have been unfolding there and there are a lot
reasons for it. Darfur and Niger are among those tragedies. One of the
factors that has been compounding this is the lack of rainfall and the
increasing drought. This is Lake Chad, once one of the largest lakes in the
world. It has dried up over the last few decades to almost nothing."

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 7
Hurricane Katrina "man made"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 7 for Cato

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 8
Polar bears "dying"
[/quote]
Which is lie #8 for Cato

This is what Gore said about Polar Bears.

"So there is a faster build up of heat here at the North Pole in the Arctic
Ocean and the Arctic generally than any where else on the planet. That>s not
good for creatures like polar bears that depend on the ice. A new scientific
study shows that for the first time they>re finding polar bears that have
actually drowned, swimming long distances up to 60 miles to find the ice.
They did not find that before."

Which is correct.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 9
Gore says coral reefs are "bleaching" because of "global warming."
They are not. There was some bleaching in 1998, but this was caused by
the exceptional El Nino Southern Oscillation that year.
[/quote]
Which is error #9 from Cato.

And what is El Nino? A Warming of the Pacific surface waters.

So acccording to Cato, here, it isn>t the warming of the earth>s oceans
that causes coral bleaching, in th pacific, it>s the rise of pacific ocean
temperatures.

MMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 10
100 ppmv of CO2 "melting mile-thick ice"
[/quote]
And that is lie 10 out of 10 for Cato.

The phrase "melting mile-thick ice." never appears in Gores Documentary.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 11
Hurricane Caterina "manmade"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 11 for Cato A repeat of Lie #7

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 12
Japanese typhoons "a new record"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 12 for Cato.

Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 13
Hurricanes "getting stronger"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 13 for Cato
..
Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 14
Big storm insurances losses "increasing"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 14 for Cato
Weather-Related Insurance Losses Doubled in '07
30 Dec 07
Losses to insurers from natural disasters nearly doubled this year to just
below $30 billion globally after an unusually quiet 2006, a leading
reinsurer said, from winter storms in Europe, flooding in Britain and
wildfires in the U.S.

http://www.desmogblog.com/weather-related-insurance-losses-doubled-in-07

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 15
Mumbai "flooding"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 15 for Cato.
Mumbai did flood.

The Maharashtra floods of 2005 refers to the flooding of many parts of the
Indian state of Maharashtra including large areas of the metropolis Mumbai,
a city located on the coast of the Arabian Sea, on the western coast of
India, in which at least 1,000 people died. It occurred just one month after
similar flooding in Gujarat.
The floods were caused by the eighth heaviest ever recorded 24-hour rainfall
figure of 944 mm (37.2 inches) which lashed the metropolis on 26 July 2005,
and intermittently continued for the next day. 644 mm (25.4 inches) was
received within the 12-hr period between 8am and 8pm. Torrential rainfall
continued for the next week.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 16
Severe tornadoes "more frequent"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 16 for Cato.
Reconstructing the frequency of tornado occurrence in the central United
States

Matthew J. Menne, NOAA/NESDIS/NCDC, Asheville, NC

Evidence is presented that the apparent decrease in strong-to-violent
tornado frequency since 1950 implied by the official storm archive is
inconsistent with the radiosonde record. Abrupt changes in the bias of the
reconstruction, that is, the ratio of the number of tornado soundings
predicted to the number observed, are shown to be coincident with changes in
storm classification procedures that occurred during the 1970s and the early
1990s. Rather than a decrease in frequency since the 1950s, the
reconstruction suggests that supercell tornado frequency has been reasonably
stationary until the 1990s when some increase in frequency is suggested.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 17
The sun "heats the Arctic ocean"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 17 for Cato.

The sun does heat the arctic ocean from the moment the sun rises over the
arctic ocean.

MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 18
Arctic "warming fastest" Gore says the Arctic has been warming faster
than the rest of the planet. It is not.
[/quote]
Which is lie #18 by Cato.
Arctic warming at twice global rate
Shaoni Bhattacharya

17:58 02 November 2004
NewScientist.com news service
Global warming in the Arctic is happening now, warns the most comprehensive
scientific report to date. The reports concludes that the northern ice cap
is warming at twice the global rate and that this will lead to serious
consequences for the planet.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6615-arctic-warming-at-twice-global-rate.html

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 19
Greenland ice sheet "unstable"
[/quote]

Which is lie #19 by Cato.

The word "unstable" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth".

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 20
Himalayan glacial melt waters "failing"
[/quote]
Which is lie #20 by Cato.

The word "failing" never appears in Gore>s award winning documentary - "An
Inconvenient Truth."

V for Vendicar · Guest

Observation, out of 20 points listed below. Libertarian Cato is found to
have lied in every instance.

Concludion. Libertarian Cato is a Liar.

Hardly a surprise as I have never encounterd a Libertairan who wasn>t a
perpetual liar.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 1
Sea level "rising 6 m"
[/quote]
Never stated. Cato>s First lie.

[quote]ERROR 2
Pacific islands "drowning"
[/quote]
Stated in the future tense, not the current tense. Cato>s Second Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 3
Thermohaline circulation "stopping"
[/quote]
Stated as a possibility - and correctly so. Cato>s Third Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 4
CO2 "driving temperature"
[/quote]
It does. Cato>s Forth Lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 5
Gore says "global warming" has been melting the snows of Mount
Kilimanjaro in Africa. It is not.
[/quote]
One researcher claims otherwise. The rest side with Gore. Cato>s Fifth
lie.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 6
Lake Chad "drying up" Gore says "global warming" dried up Lake Chad in
Africa. It did not. Over-extraction of water and changing agricultural
patterns dried the lake, which was also dry in 8500BC, 5500BC, 1000BC
and 100BC.
[/quote]
Which is Lie number 6 for Cato.

This is what Gore says about Lake Chad...

"Unbelievable tragedies have been unfolding there and there are a lot
reasons for it. Darfur and Niger are among those tragedies. One of the
factors that has been compounding this is the lack of rainfall and the
increasing drought. This is Lake Chad, once one of the largest lakes in the
world. It has dried up over the last few decades to almost nothing."

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 7
Hurricane Katrina "man made"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 7 for Cato

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 8
Polar bears "dying"
[/quote]
Which is lie #8 for Cato

This is what Gore said about Polar Bears.

"So there is a faster build up of heat here at the North Pole in the Arctic
Ocean and the Arctic generally than any where else on the planet. That>s not
good for creatures like polar bears that depend on the ice. A new scientific
study shows that for the first time they>re finding polar bears that have
actually drowned, swimming long distances up to 60 miles to find the ice.
They did not find that before."

Which is correct.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 9
Gore says coral reefs are "bleaching" because of "global warming."
They are not. There was some bleaching in 1998, but this was caused by
the exceptional El Nino Southern Oscillation that year.
[/quote]
Which is error #9 from Cato.

And what is El Nino? A Warming of the Pacific surface waters.

So acccording to Cato, here, it isn>t the warming of the earth>s oceans
that causes coral bleaching, in th pacific, it>s the rise of pacific ocean
temperatures.

MMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNN

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 10
100 ppmv of CO2 "melting mile-thick ice"
[/quote]
And that is lie 10 out of 10 for Cato.

The phrase "melting mile-thick ice." never appears in Gores Documentary.

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 11
Hurricane Caterina "manmade"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 11 for Cato A repeat of Lie #7

This is what Gore says about Katrina.

"And then of course came Katrina. It is worth remembering that when it hit
Florida it was a Category 1, but it killed a lot of people and caused
billions of dollars worth of damage. And then, what happened? Before it hit
New Orleans, it went over warmer water. As the water temperature increases,
the wind velocity increases and the moisture content increases. And you>ll
see Hurricane Katrina form over Florida. And then as it comes into the Gulf
over warm water it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger. Look at that
Hurricane>s eye. And of course the consequences were so horrendous; there
are no words to describe it. "

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 12
Japanese typhoons "a new record"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 12 for Cato.

Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 13
Hurricanes "getting stronger"
[/quote]

Which is lie # 13 for Cato
..
Warmer Seas Creating Stronger Hurricane, Study Confirms
by Ker Than

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0317-08.htm

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 14
Big storm insurances losses "increasing"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 14 for Cato
Weather-Related Insurance Losses Doubled in '07
30 Dec 07
Losses to insurers from natural disasters nearly doubled this year to just
below $30 billion globally after an unusually quiet 2006, a leading
reinsurer said, from winter storms in Europe, flooding in Britain and
wildfires in the U.S.

http://www.desmogblog.com/weather-related-insurance-losses-doubled-in-07

"Cato" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote
[quote]ERROR 15
Mumbai "flooding"
[/quote]
Which is lie # 15 for Cato.
Mumbai did flood.

The Maharashtra floods of 2005 refers to the flooding of many parts of the
Indian state of Maharashtra including large areas of the metr


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