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Jeff▲Relf
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 Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:41 pm Post subject: Nasdaq, as measured in gold, lost 89** percent in 9 years. |
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You told me:
“ Gold has gone up a factor of 3 in price since Jan of 2000. ”
Had you invested in the Nasdaq Composite at its peak, start of 2000,
when it was 5,050, you>d be down 66** percent, before taxes, fees,
inflation***, etc. [ **: .66 = 1 - 1,740 / 5,050 ]
***:
In Seattle, the official inflation number is 5.6 percent/year;
however, since 1988, my rent has have gone up much more than that.
If what you say about gold is correct, then
Nasdaq, as measured in gold, lost 89** percent in 9 years.
**: .89 = 1 - 1,740 / 3 / 5,050
It was fraud, a scam, a con, and it killed tech-jobs.
Now, the same thing has happened in the housing market because
no one cared about Earnings or Management !
Millions of homes now lay idle for sqautters to plunder.
Fannie and Freddie “ own ” 6 teradollars in bundled mortgages.
Who manages these houses ? what are the earnings ( from rent ) ? |
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Jeff▲Relf
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:28 pm Post subject: Re: Nasdaq, as measured in gold, lost 89** percent in 9 year |
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You can sell gold for dollars to buy a Nasdaq index fund.
You can track the Nasdaq Composite in terms of rolls of toilet paper;
or, better yet, months of rent+utilities in Seattle.
One glance at the pump prices and you know the value of the dollar;
one dollar is one share in “ U.S.A. Inc. ”, the U.S. government.
How well is it managed ? what is it earning, e.g. from taxes ?
What>s this “ idiot ” shit ? are you talking to yourself again ? |
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Eric Gisse
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: Nasdaq, as measured in gold, lost 89** percent in 9 year |
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On Oct 9, 4:48 am, strich.9...@gmail.com wrote:
[quote]On Oct 9, 4:58 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 9, 12:41 am, Jeff$B"%(BRelf <Jeff_R...@Seattle.Invalid> wrote:
You told me:
" Gold has gone up a factor of 3 in price since Jan of 2000. "
Had you invested in the Nasdaq [snip]
NASDAQ is not gold.
What does Eric know? His only asset is the watch he lifted from
Walmart.
[/quote]
Your troll-fu is slipping into straight up stupidity. |
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Benj
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: Physicists caused wall street melt down... |
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On Oct 9, 8:45 am, strich.9...@gmail.com wrote:
[quote]On Oct 8, 1:00 pm, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
That would be because someone TOLD you that you should.
So they sell you and you buy it.
Maybe you are that stupid, but I buy a new car because it works
better, not because some crook like Honest Eric told me so. It>s not
worth my time to fix them up. You can put the dealership in Fargo,
I>ll still buy one.
[/quote]
You>ve got the wrong idea. The problem is not new cars vs old cars,
the problem is buying a car when you don>t have the money to do so.
You promise your future money so you can have something right now.
What you are buying is irrelevant except in the sense that one needs
to ask IF the gear in question will produce enough profit to pay back
the loan with some left over. The latter case is what we call
business. But people have been sold this "live for today" crap that
says, if you decide you want something (say a new car to show class
with the neighbors) you "deserve" to have it RIGHT NOW even though you
haven>t got the money to buy it. THAT is the "sales pitch". And that
means that you max your credit card, you become a slave to your job,
pay much more for things than they actually cost and all the rest.
Bosses LOVE people who have put themselves in that fix. My bosses hate
me. When they say "kiss my ass" I can say "I don>t think so". People
say, "aren>t you worried about losing your job?" And I tell them, hey,
I could quit right now and pay myself my current salary for YEARS and
I sure can live on a lot less than that! That is freedom! So the
bottom line is not do you buy a new car, but do you already have the
money to buy that car you are looking at? See? |
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Pissant
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: Please suggest how to get rid of fruit flies with access |
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"George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in message
news:94ba26f1100b4804769889b65293c306@mixmaster.it...
[quote]For instance, since I>m in Norway, in northern part of
Europe, there>s not very much use in referring to products
only available in US stores.
Set fruit fly traps in your fruit trees.[/quote]
Use about 2 litre plastic bottles. Cut a small slot in the neck of the
bottle about 3mm X 50 mm, about 100mm below the top.
Part fill the bottle with urine (human piss, dog>s piss, cat>s piss, any
piss) with a couple of spoons of sugar dissolved in it, also some yeast
extract like marmite, Bovril or Vegemite (if you are Australian) added to
the mix. It will attract fruit fly into the bottle and they will be trapped.
They fly up to the top (closed by the cap) and will die in the trap. This
makes the mixture even more smelly and attracts more flies. Soon. no more
fruit fly.
Pissant from Oz. |
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Dr. Henri Wilson
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 2:56 am Post subject: Re: Androcles your situation is now worse than you thought |
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On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:18:24 GMT, "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote:
[quote]------------- ahahahahahaha -----------
---------- ahahAHAHAahaha ----------
-------- AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA -----------
Gin soaked ex-truck driver "Androcles", the
Headmaster at Hogwarts.physics> wrote ...
that he honestly believes that his own OPINIONS
are more valid than the ones expressed by others
because he no longer is able to realize that his
tripes are always & only just plain, banal and
pedestrian OPINIONS that are based on:
====== Androcles' Principle =======
== When in trouble, when in doubt ==
== Run in circles, scream and shout ==
====== Androcles' Principle =======
------------- prior post --------------
"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote
Androcles your situation is now better than you thought:
Here is your Doppelganger, CBS,
Charles Bert Schreiber, charlesbert_99@yahoo.com
This dude is so radical he makes you look like a pussy.
Get in touch with him and then you 2 guys can redo
Physics as we know it. ... Right up you alley!
Unlike you, CBS has good communication skills and
he could make the narrative for your spread sheets
and you pictures, and in exchange you could make the
illustrations for this tripe.
Together, you 2 then can sell you tripe-combo more
successfully than you have failed to do so far alone
and spearately. Here is you man:
http://www.wbabin.net/science/schreiber4.pdf
I wish you good luck,
hanson
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ex-truck Driver Androcles wrote:
You forgot your radical maniacal laughter. Where>s your
doppelganger Savain got to, he should be mumbling about
the matrix by now? He makes you look like a wussy.
Get in touch with him and then you 2 guys can redo
physics as only you know it. ... right up your back passage!
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* Androcles 11, cha-cha-hanson 0 *
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hanson wrote:
Now Andro>s situation is WORSE than he thought:
cuz.. ahaha... due to Androcles' alcoholic fits let me
correct and re-state properly what Andorcles really
meant to say in his jealous "back passage"
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Androcles 11 jugs o>Gin, cha-cha - hanson 0
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With 11 jugs o>Gin under Andro>s belt and doing
his dance, there is something wrong with Andro.
No wonder that Andro can>t see what it is. Not
even when help is offered. - But the Alky-fits of
ex truck driver Andro are precious & HILARIOUS...
Thanks for the laughs, Andro...ahahaha hahahanson
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PS:
Andorcles Aetheric Driver>s License revocation wrap sheet :
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/085c781262db06a2?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/081b253ab510d883?hl=en
wherein Androcles posted on May 12th 08 that
::A:: "the Vehicle Licensing Agency telling me I>m
::A:: losing my truck license on medical grounds so
::A:: that>s the last of the honest day>s work for me." ...
AHAHAHAHA...
---------- next post -------------
Convergent Evolution of Androcles with rect-Al Schwartz:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/e892d27f02323926?hl=en
wherein they posted:
08-12-08): Androcles said: *** " boy, I>m a god " ***
(10-05-02): Al Schwartz said: *** "Uncle Al is a god" ***
What we have here is **convergent evolution**....
AHAHAHA...
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----- ## ** How to crank Andorcles **## ------.
Tell the ex-truck driver Andorcles:
1) ==== that there is an Aether.......& he flies off the handle
2) ==== that Einstein was/is right...& he flies off the handle
3) ==== Snip some of his tripe.......& he flies off the handle
4) ==== that you doubt him..............& he flies off the handle
5) ==== that you agree with him......& he flies off the handle
6) ==== that you want to help him...& he flies off the handle
7) ==== that he made you laugh......& he flies off the handle
8) ==== Tell him ANYTHING............& he flies off the handle....
Andro is the perfect sucker!
Andro, we love ya!.. not for your
physics, but for all the laughs.
See, you are still good for some-
thing, even without a drivers license.
------------ ahahahaha... ahahahaha ---------------
[/quote]
Don>t be too hard on the poor old fella. There are far worse pommie whingers
than Andro....
Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm.
Einstein: the greatest hoaxer since 'virgin' mary |
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Angelo
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:02 am Post subject: Re: Molecular formula CH exist ? |
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On 1 Ott, 07:37, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote:
[quote]"Stringer" <strin...@virgin.net> wrote in message
news:O1DEk.84340$8f7.80602@newsfe20.ams2...> Does the "molecular" formula CH exist and if so is it stable?
I was wondering if atomic hydrogen (hydrogen-1, protium) can readily bind
to its carbon container in a vacuum?
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The issue about protium (deuterium/tritium) is here
meanigless.
[snip, already discussed]
[quote]So the answer is no, CH by itself doesn>t exist.
[/quote]
Wrong, you speak of stability irrespectively of the
appropriate environment.
CH2 (methylene or the simplest carbene, either as in its
singlet state (Lewis acid mainly, Lewis base in fewer
cases), or as in its triplet state), CH3 (whose Ionization
Potential, Electron Affinity, and others properties are of
paramount importace), and (CH5)+, are all stable
species in their opportune enviroments, for example.
Speaking about their non existence simply shows
delusions of competence in that field of chemistry.
Best regards
Angelo |
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hanson
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:54 am Post subject: Re: Androcles your situation is now worse than you thought |
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----------- ahahahaha.... ahahahahaha... --------------
[quote]
"Dr. Henri Wilson" <HW@....> wrote in message[/quote]
news:savse4lp6g8efh1lh2vcgs8cmv8v6g0lu5@4ax.com...
[quote]
Don>t be too hard on the poor old fella. There are far[/quote]
worse pommie whingers than [he]....
Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)
[quote]
hanson wrote:[/quote]
Henry,
If you really meant what you said then you would
have snipped my post and maybe only posted
a link at best... But the way you did it does show
your Schadenfreude and your obvious gloating...
ahahahaha...
However, he said loudly on many occasions that
he had a skin a thick as a rhino. True, but a rhino>s
skin is extremely sensitive.... ahahaha....
[quote]
Now we get to the good part: Who is the worst[/quote]
of these "pommie whingers"?... Be careful what you
wish for though, Henry!... But thanks for the laughs.
ahahaha... ahahahanson
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hanson
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:46 am Post subject: Re: Aether>s polylogy |
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"spudnik", the son of Mr. Potatohead <Space998@hotmail.com>
was plowing thru his fields of Aether, furrow after
snippable furrow, and then he stumbled onto
somethign remakalbe that he wasn>t quite aware
of in "Re: the situation is worse than you thought"
wherein he wrote
[quote]
"spudnik" wrote:[/quote]
we may need a fractal dimension or so,
to actually generate this map.
[quote]
hanson wrote:[/quote]
Now that is an unusual and maybe novel idea
which slipped out of spud>s mind and menation
as he kicked up the dust in disdain and made
the Aether rise again and again....
[quote]
To use the non-integral portions of the fractal[/quote]
properties domain dimensions is a truly
interesting notion to probe for the existence of
an Aether.
[quote]
Classical and Einsteinian laws use strictly the[/quote]
integer powers of 2. But if you describe nature in
terms of fractal power values then exponents
of 1.99xxx and 2.001xxx, etc. etc. will occur.
[quote]
So, what is that Aetheral thing that is, ....thus far[/quote]
invisible and un-researched, ... looming, hovering
and stirring in the power domains of +/- 0.1xxx or
+/- 0.999xxx next to the integer of 2 ?
Cool, Aetheric notion, spud. Thanks!
hanson
[quote]
PS:[/quote]
Come to think of you are not really the first one
to stir up the dust that way in vain.. and make the
Aether, like the dust, rise again & again & again:
[quote]
http://tinyurl.com/5x72j4 .... or in
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sci.physics.new-theories/msg/8a9db4d7a861fc1e?hl=en[/quote]
wherein the professor pontificated at length about:
"Consequences of the existence...
in a universe with less than one dimension. |
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:46 am Post subject: Re: Aether>s polylogy |
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hanson wrote:
[quote]hanson wrote:
Now that is an unusual and maybe novel idea
which slipped out of spud>s mind and menation
as he kicked up the dust in disdain and made
the Aether rise again and again....
To use the non-integral portions of the fractal
properties domain dimensions is a truly
interesting notion to probe for the existence of
an Aether.
Classical and Einsteinian laws use strictly the
integer powers of 2. But if you describe nature in
terms of fractal power values then exponents
of 1.99xxx and 2.001xxx, etc. etc. will occur.
[/quote]
Wusseeeee... Real Men use uncomputable numbers, or at least primes, as
the basis for their new post Einstein physics.
--
Dirk
http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.onetribe.me.uk/wordpress/?cat=5 - Our podcasts on weird stuff |
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Jeff▲Relf
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:08 pm Post subject: Who will Eric Gisse work for ? a Nasdaq company ? |
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Suppose you stop collecting diplomas ..
who will you work for then ? a Nasdaq company ?
The spot-price for gold is now 916.75 USD per troy ounce
a 3.37-fold increase from the 272 USD/ounce at the start of 2000;
so Nasdaq, as measured in gold, lost 90** percent in ~9 years.
**: .90 = 1 - 1,645 / 3.37 / 5,050 ”. |
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Eric Gisse
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: Who will Eric Gisse work for ? a Nasdaq company ? |
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On Oct 10, 3:08 am, Jeff$B"%(BRelf <Jeff_R...@Seattle.Invalid> wrote:
[quote]Suppose you stop collecting diplomas ..
who will you work for then ? a Nasdaq company ?
The spot-price for gold is now 916.75 USD per troy ounce
a 3.37-fold increase from the 272 USD/ounce at the start of 2000;
so Nasdaq, as measured in gold, lost 90** percent in ~9 years.
**: .90 = 1 - 1,645 / 3.37 / 5,050 ".
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Why do you keep saying stupid things like 'nasdaq, as measured in
gold' ? |
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Benj
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: Who will Eric Gisse work for ? a Nasdaq company ? |
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On Oct 10, 12:40 pm, david.bostw...@chemistry.gatech.edu (David
Bostwick) wrote:
Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Why do you keep saying stupid things like 'nasdaq, as measured in
gold' ?
More stupider, why is this nonsense in sci.* groups?
[/quote]
Because it was alleged that physicists and other scientists hired by
wall street created the complex derivatives that if not caused,
certainly contributed to the crash by hiding bad debt under
mathematical complexity.
[quote]And why am I extending the chain?
[/quote]
Because you don>t know better? |
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zzbunker@netscape.net
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: Who will Eric Gisse work for ? a Nasdaq company ? |
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On Oct 10, 4:27pm, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 10, 12:40 pm, david.bostw...@chemistry.gatech.edu (DavidBostwick) wrote:
Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
Why do you keep saying stupid things like 'nasdaq, as measured in
gold' ?
More stupider, why is this nonsense in sci.* groups?
Because it was alleged that physicists and other scientists hired by
wall street created the complex derivatives that if not caused,
certainly contributed to the crash by hiding bad debt under
mathematical complexity.
[/quote]
Well, the problem is even worse than that, the idiots hid it under
*computer* complexity,
since the only thing the numerologists understand less about than
computers, is mathematics
that isn>t Fibonacci numbers.
Which is why the people with economic, science, engineering,
history, and non-Cantor logic brains
invented the post AT&T fiber optics, RISC++ HDTV[], laser-guided
lasers, Post GM Holograms,
Post Ford Batteries, Post Chrysler Transmissions, XML, other
things that aren>t
recursive Quantum Noise.for the IBM Wanks.
[quote]
And why am I extending the chain?
Because you don>t know better?[/quote] |
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Bill Snyder
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: Who will Eric Gisse work for ? a Nasdaq company ? |
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:27:40 -0700 (PDT), Eric Gisse
<jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 10, 3:08 am, Jeff?Relf <Jeff_R...@Seattle.Invalid> wrote:
Suppose you stop collecting diplomas ..
who will you work for then ? a Nasdaq company ?
The spot-price for gold is now 916.75 USD per troy ounce
a 3.37-fold increase from the 272 USD/ounce at the start of 2000;
so Nasdaq, as measured in gold, lost 90** percent in ~9 years.
**: .90 = 1 - 1,645 / 3.37 / 5,050 ".
Why do you keep saying stupid things like 'nasdaq, as measured in
gold' ?
[/quote]
Because he>s a clueless imbecile. HTH. HAND.
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