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Kofi Guest
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:29 am Post subject: Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmun |
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In article
<ae118358-1778-4400-aa49-1d1c2e0d60ad@17g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>,
Taka <taka0038@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 3, 8:23 am, Kofi <k...@anon.un> wrote:
You really, really need to avoid tomatoes if you>ve got any inflammation
at all. There>s a diet for M.S. patients that should help anybody with
nerve damage. Nightshades are very inflammatory.
Could you explain please how nightshades can be inflammatory? Any
references or molecular clues?
[/quote]
No. I just took it as a pointer from an M.S. diet and it worked for me.
I can>t remember why off the top of my head and I>ve got no notes on it. |
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Kofi Guest
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:29 am Post subject: Re: redheads, celiac and opiates |
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In article <48e58be7$0$554$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com>,
katy <katysails@netscape.com> wrote:
[quote]Kofi wrote:
What did you do for the pain?
Took diphenhydramine and Tramadol and mostly zonked myself out...I
should also mention I have a high pain threshold..
Are you a redhead? Have a redheaded parent?
I>m a brunette with heavy auburn highlights...mother brunette, father
black hair....I am olive skintone....
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The mutation for red hair is a non-functional MC-1 mutation. It>s not
necessarily dominant. It prevents alpha-MSH from docking to its
receptor (MC-1) and leaves opiates floating around longer in the blood.
This results in greater analgesia when a burst of pain releases
endogenous endorphins. Redheaded women have the highests tolerance for
pain, followed by redheaded men, followed by the rest of men, followed
by the rest of women. Since caesin and gluten are also processed into
opiates when they>re digested, I have a theory I wrote about a few years
back that people who have this redheaded gene (and they wouldn>t
necessarily be pure redheads) would be more vulnerable to autoimmune
problems revolving around gluten, caesin and other nutritional opioids
(like rice, red meat and maybe spinach too) because the antigens would
float around in these individuals longer before they broke down. When
you mentioned high tolerance to pain and a gluten problem, I played the
probabilities and took a guess. |
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Vanny Guest
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmun |
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If you have a medical disorder, in particular MS, or another neurological
disorder, or food intolerances/allergies, it might be worth watching this
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v309238555An3pQA?rank=9&
"Kofi" <kofi@anon.un.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:kofi-561AE1.20223703102008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net...
[quote]In article
ae118358-1778-4400-aa49-1d1c2e0d60ad@17g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>,
Taka <taka0038@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 3, 8:23 am, Kofi <k...@anon.un> wrote:
You really, really need to avoid tomatoes if you>ve got any
inflammation
at all. There>s a diet for M.S. patients that should help anybody with
nerve damage. Nightshades are very inflammatory.
Could you explain please how nightshades can be inflammatory? Any
references or molecular clues?
No. I just took it as a pointer from an M.S. diet and it worked for me.
I can>t remember why off the top of my head and I>ve got no notes on it.[/quote] |
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Guest
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: Calif. restaurant chains required to list calories |
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Convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
[quote]Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Folks carrying food scales per the diabetic 2PD-OMER Approach have no
need for calorie lists, which are meaningless anyway since the numbers
are factitious.
So the numbers are useless because they>re "produced by man rather
than by natural forces" [Webster]?
The numbers are useless because listing them as constants make them
far removed from reality where the actual amount of food actually
served is highly variable. Everyone weighing their meals per the 2PD-
OMER Approach is aware of the latter fact.
The numbers are perfectly adequate for life in the real world.
[/quote]
If that were true, there would be no obesity epidemic.
Instead, non-2PD-OMER folks continue to suffer from the delusion that
eating low-calorie food will result in weight loss while they have no
awareness of how much they are eating.
<><
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Manfred Guest
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:55 pm Post subject: Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmun |
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Anyone here take MMS (Miracle Mineral Supplement) seriously for herpes
virus? |
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Kofi Guest
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:52 am Post subject: Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmun |
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[quote]This is kind of interesting...informationally...
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=62
...but I>d recommend just Googling "nightshades". I suspect the issue
for people with IBD is the alkaline content of nightshades, however, I
recall being warned off tomatoes by the hospital dietitian because they
are highly acidic...at least that was what I surmised at the time...I
suppose she could have meant alkaline reactive; she just told me "you>ll
have to avoid tomatoes from now on" when I was released. Ever seen what
tomato sauce does to an aluminum pot if you leave it?..I avoid tomatoes
religiously...mostly...
[/quote]
Acid-sensing ion channel gene 3? I found something on that a few months
back.
Do you experience a lot of muscle fatigue after you eat tomatoes? |
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Rufus Guest
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:17 am Post subject: Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmun |
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Kofi wrote:
[quote]This is kind of interesting...informationally...
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=62
...but I>d recommend just Googling "nightshades". I suspect the issue
for people with IBD is the alkaline content of nightshades, however, I
recall being warned off tomatoes by the hospital dietitian because they
are highly acidic...at least that was what I surmised at the time...I
suppose she could have meant alkaline reactive; she just told me "you>ll
have to avoid tomatoes from now on" when I was released. Ever seen what
tomato sauce does to an aluminum pot if you leave it?..I avoid tomatoes
religiously...mostly...
Acid-sensing ion channel gene 3? I found something on that a few months
back.
Do you experience a lot of muscle fatigue after you eat tomatoes?
[/quote]
I generally experience fatigue and deep malaise after I eat any heavy
meal...mainly if I eat gluten heavy things like beef barley soup or
something with high wheat/oat content...though I seem to be ok with a
couple slices of wheat toast during breakfast. I had to quit eating
Cheerios, though...a bowl would knock me down for hours. Awake, but
feel as if I>m made of lead, and even just breathing is a chore...
What I get from tomatoes is gut pain, pure and simple. A constant low
level burning across my entire gut during this current episode. Been a
little over a week since I made the mistake of eating too much pizza and
I>m still dealing with it. Flared enough to feel it, but not bleeding
and still regular; not particularly diuretic, but needing to hit the
Ultram a couple times this week, maybe tonight as well.
Generally I just plain don>t and/or won>t eat tomatoes or tomato sauces.
I also try to avoid sugars (and honey in particular) when I get like
this - things that may elevate acid content in the gut during digestion
due to how they are broken down chemically.
I seem to be ok with peppers and/or dill pickles, and eat those as
substitutes for tomatoes. Spicy foods in general don>t seem to bother
me...as long as they don>t have an acidic (alkaline?...) content.
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Kofi Guest
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:24 am Post subject: Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmun |
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[quote]What I get from tomatoes is gut pain, pure and simple. A constant low
level burning across my entire gut during this current episode. Been a
little over a week since I made the mistake of eating too much pizza and
I>m still dealing with it. Flared enough to feel it, but not bleeding
and still regular; not particularly diuretic, but needing to hit the
Ultram a couple times this week, maybe tonight as well.
[/quote]
Sounds like antibodies. They take about a week to clear out of the
blood. |
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Rufus Guest
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:24 am Post subject: Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmun |
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Kofi wrote:
[quote]What I get from tomatoes is gut pain, pure and simple. A constant low
level burning across my entire gut during this current episode. Been a
little over a week since I made the mistake of eating too much pizza and
I>m still dealing with it. Flared enough to feel it, but not bleeding
and still regular; not particularly diuretic, but needing to hit the
Ultram a couple times this week, maybe tonight as well.
Sounds like antibodies. They take about a week to clear out of the
blood.
[/quote]
....dunno. I have "mild" Crohn>s, and to me it sounds/feels like a
flare. So far, at least I>m not bleeding...again...
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John Hasenkam Guest
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmun |
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Kofi,
You might want to look up cannabinoids and Herpes Simplex, I think there was
a study released a few months ago suggesting some cannabinoids can inhibit
herbes replication. Interesting given the success of cannabinoids in
Multiple Sclerosis.
John.
"Manfred" <manfred95@lycos.com> wrote in message
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[quote]Anyone here take MMS (Miracle Mineral Supplement) seriously for herpes
virus?[/quote] |
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Guest
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: Calif. restaurant chains required to list calories |
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convicted Don Kirkman wrote:
[quote]Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Folks carrying food scales per the diabetic 2PD-OMER Approach have no
need for calorie lists, which are meaningless anyway since the numbers
are factitious.
So the numbers are useless because they>re "produced by man rather
than by natural forces" [Webster]?
The numbers are useless because listing them as constants make them
far removed from reality where the actual amount of food actually
served is highly variable. Everyone weighing their meals per the 2PD-
OMER Approach is aware of the latter fact.
The numbers are perfectly adequate for life in the real world.
If that were true, there would be no obesity epidemic.
Apparently you>ve lost the last vestiges of your scientific background
and medical training.
[/quote]
There is no longer an obesity epidemic among those using the 2PD-OMER
Approach.
Truth is simple.
<><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Guest
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject: Re: Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 10/05/08 |
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convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
[quote]Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Don Kirkman <donsno2@charter.net> wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Eating low-calorie foods without an awareness of food amount promotes
obesity by promoting delusional thinking.
Delusional thinking promotes fad diets without scientific foundation
or proven efficacy.
Thankfully the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet.
Apparently you>re thinking of the 2P-OMER Approach...
[/quote]
No.
An Approach to diets is not equivalent to diet.
The fact that the 2PD-OMER Approach can be dove-tailed with any diet
allows the discerning to know and understand that the 2PD-OMER
Approach is definitely not a diet.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Guest
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:11 am Post subject: Re: Is the Pancreas restorable? |
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hermie wrote:
[quote]
I have read in various places that those who are developing type 2
diabetes can restore their pancreas by exercise and diet. Is this true;
[/quote]
Not by diet and exercise but by losing the VAT.
The latter is done by eating less, down to the optimal amount.
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Kofi Guest
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 4:57 am Post subject: Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmun |
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In article <1JSdnRCwQI0EPnXVnZ2dnUVZ8u6dnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, "John
Hasenkam" <johnh@goawayplease.com> wrote:
[quote]Kofi,
You might want to look up cannabinoids and Herpes Simplex, I think there
was
a study released a few months ago suggesting some cannabinoids can
inhibit
herbes replication. Interesting given the success of cannabinoids in
Multiple Sclerosis.
[/quote]
Nice find. Have you got anything more recent than what I dug up - like
an in vivo study?
This fits in with my theory that low-dose naltrexone stimulates
cannabinoid signaling via upregulating the mu opioid receptor.
BMC Med. 2004 Sep 15;2:34.
Delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) inhibits lytic replication of gamma
oncogenic herpesviruses in vitro.
Medveczky MM, Sherwood TA, Klein TW, Friedman H, Medveczky PG.
Department of Medical Microbiology and Immunology, MDC Box 10,
University of South Florida, and the H. Lee Moffitt Cancer Center, 12901
Bruce B. Downs Blvd, Tampa, FL 33612-4799, USA.
BACKGROUND: The major psychoactive cannabinoid compound of marijuana,
delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), has been shown to modulate immune
responses and lymphocyte function. After primary infection the viral DNA
genome of gamma herpesviruses persists in lymphoid cell nuclei in a
latent episomal circular form. In response to extracellular signals, the
latent virus can be activated, which leads to production of infectious
virus progeny. Therefore, we evaluated the potential effects of THC on
gamma herpesvirus replication. METHODS: Tissue cultures infected with
various gamma herpesviruses were cultured in the presence of increasing
concentrations of THC and the amount of viral DNA or infectious virus
yield was compared to those of control cultures. The effect of THC on
Kaposi>s Sarcoma Associated Herpesvirus (KSHV) and Epstein-Barr virus
(EBV) replication was measured by the Gardella method and replication of
herpesvirus saimiri (HVS) of monkeys, murine gamma herpesvirus 68 (MHV
68), and herpes simplex type 1 (HSV-1) was measured by yield reduction
assays. Inhibition of the immediate early ORF 50 gene promoter activity
was measured by the dual luciferase method. RESULTS: Micromolar
concentrations of THC inhibit KSHV and EBV reactivation in virus
infected/immortalized B cells. THC also strongly inhibits lytic
replication of MHV 68 and HVS in vitro. Importantly, concentrations of
THC that inhibit virus replication of gamma herpesviruses have no effect
on cell growth or HSV-1 replication, indicating selectivity. THC was
shown to selectively inhibit the immediate early ORF 50 gene promoter of
KSHV and MHV 68. CONCLUSIONS: THC specifically targets viral and/or
cellular mechanisms required for replication and possibly shared by
these gamma herpesviruses, and the endocannabinoid system is possibly
involved in regulating gamma herpesvirus latency and lytic replication.
The immediate early gene ORF 50 promoter activity was specifically
inhibited by THC. These studies may also provide the foundation for the
development of antiviral strategies utilizing non-psychoactive
derivatives of THC.
Publication Types:
* Research Support, U.S. Gov>t, P.H.S.
PMID: 15369590
Diabetes. 2001 Jul;50(7):1580-7.
Activation of acetyl-CoA carboxylase by a glutamate- and
magnesium-sensitive protein phosphatase in the islet beta-cell.
Kowluru A, Chen HQ, Modrick LM, Stefanelli C.
Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences, 610 Shapero Hall, Wayne State
University, Detroit, MI 48202, USA.
Acetyl-CoA carboxylase (ACC) catalyzes the formation of malonyl-CoA, a
precursor in the biosynthesis of long-chain fatty acids, which have been
implicated in physiological insulin secretion. The catalytic function of
ACC is regulated by phosphorylation (inactive)-dephosphorylation
(active). In this study we investigated whether similar regulatory
mechanisms exist for ACC in the pancreatic islet beta-cell. ACC was
quantitated in normal rat islets, human islets, and clonal beta-cells
(HIT-15 or INS-1) using a [(14)C]bicarbonate fixation assay. In the
beta-cell lysates, ACC was stimulated by magnesium in a
concentration-dependent manner. Of all the dicarboxylic acids tested,
only glutamate, albeit ineffective by itself, significantly potentiated
magnesium-activated ACC in a concentration-dependent manner. ACC
stimulation by glutamate and magnesium was maximally demonstrable in the
cytosolic fraction; it was markedly reduced by okadaic acid (OKA) in
concentrations (<50 nmol/l) that inhibited protein phosphatase 2A
(PP2A). Furthermore, pretreatment of the cytosolic fraction with
anti-PP2A serum attenuated the glutamate- and magnesium-mediated
activation of ACC, thereby suggesting that ACC may be regulated by an
OKA-sensitive PP2A-like enzyme. Streptavidin-agarose chromatography
studies have indicated that glutamate- and magnesium-mediated effects on
ACC are attributable to activation of ACC>s dephosphorylation; this
suggests that the stimulatory effects of glutamate and magnesium on ACC
might involve activation of an OKA-sensitive PP2A-like enzyme that
dephosphorylates and activates ACC. In our study,
5-amino-imidazolecarboxamide (AICA) riboside, a stimulator of AMP
kinase, significantly inhibited glucose-mediated activation of ACC and
insulin secretion from isolated beta-cells. Together, our data provide
evidence for a unique regulatory mechanism for the activation of ACC in
the pancreatic beta-cell, leading to the generation of physiological
signals that may be relevant for physiological insulin secretion.
Publication Types:
* Research Support, Non-U.S. Gov>t
* Research Support, U.S. Gov>t, Non-P.H.S.
* Research Support, U.S. Gov>t, P.H.S.
PMID: 11423479 |
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John Hasenkam Guest
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:42 am Post subject: Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmun |
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"Kofi" <kofi@anon.un> wrote in message
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[quote]In article <1JSdnRCwQI0EPnXVnZ2dnUVZ8u6dnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, "John
Hasenkam" <johnh@goawayplease.com> wrote:
Kofi,
You might want to look up cannabinoids and Herpes Simplex, I think there
was
a study released a few months ago suggesting some cannabinoids can
inhibit
herbes replication. Interesting given the success of cannabinoids in
Multiple Sclerosis.
Nice find. Have you got anything more recent than what I dug up - like
an in vivo study?
This fits in with my theory that low-dose naltrexone stimulates
cannabinoid signaling via upregulating the mu opioid receptor.
[/quote]
This one address u opoid functions of cannabinoids.
http://molpharm.aspetjournals.org/cgi/reprint/69/4/1486.pdf
But can>t find the original reference. In any event you>ve got the picture.
You might want to think about some heepseed, it is rich in cannabidiol.
You clearly are doing a great deal of research to address your problems.
Been there, done that. Had vision problems that left me unable to work for
many years. Saw doctors who all just said "get used to it". Bastards. Only
last year did I find the problem and within 2 months could start working
again because the cure was dead simple. Bloody doctors can be so lazy, if
the problem isn>t in the textbooks too many of them just give up or worse
suspect you are malingering. Pricks.
Send me full details of your problems to jhasenkam@gmail.com. I>ll see what
I can find for you.
John. |
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